Talk:Frances Perkins/Archive 1

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In my view, this article does not include enough about the interesting professional relationship between FDR and Frances Perkins. I will try to edit the piece and add something.

--Andrew Szanton, 19:22, 1 May 2006

birth date in the article is not correct--correct year is 1880
71.217.36.173 19:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)While doing a research paper about Frances Perkins, the discrepancy between birth dates was brought up. The discrepancy probably originated with Frances herself, trying to shave years off her age. This source mentions 1882 as her birth year; others mention 1880. As a beginning genealogist, I accessed the 1880 federal census and found Frances and her family. Fred and Susan Perkins are listed as living in Boston along with 2 month old daughter, Fannie. Therefore, her corrct birth year is 1880, not 1882 as mentioned in this article and in another online encyclopedia.

Military draft line needs better source.
This line presented in the opening summary:

"Perkins resisted the drafting of American women to serve the military in World War II so that they could enter the civilian workforce in greatly expanded numbers.[3]"

is listed as coming from this source:

"Downey, 2009, p. 337."

The only book by an author named Downey in 2009 is Kirstin Downey who wrote "The Woman Behind the New Deal, The Life Of Frances Perkins, FDR's Secretary of Labor and His Moral Conscience."

Google books link: https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Woman_Behind_the_New_Deal.html?id=WTbeNKYzg1EC&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button#v=onepage&q&f=false

This book may be a good source for historical information about Frances Perkins in general, but the paraphrasing I quoted above is not accurate to the book, at least nothing appears about "drafting of American Women" on pages 336, 337, or 338, 339.

p336 - http://postimg.org/image/kr3a8t92d/ p337 - http://postimg.org/image/qr4v5h2xb/ p338,339 - http://postimg.org/image/i0ctacx2p/

The closest related quote, which does appear on p337, says,

"She dealt with many labor questions during the war, when skilled manpower was vital and women moved into formerly male jobs."

In addition, the only women's draft legislation I can find from WWII was specific to nursing, not combat or any other role in the military:

"When the Army Surgeon General announced that not enough nurses were volunteering for military service, President Roosevelt requested a nurse draft bill in his 1945 State of the Union address. A bill quickly passed in the House of Representatives, but stalled in the Senate." http://www.womensmemorial.org/H&C/History/wwii.html

I'm changing what was written in the description to more accurately reflect what Downey actually wrote. If there is a better source or a different page in the book with an actual reference to Perkin's political stance on the draft, please update the source and reference.

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