Talk:Francis Drake

Brass plate in Northern California
Just saw a TV show (mysteries of the museum) where they show a brass plate attributed to Drake. It was discovered in the 1930s, but more recent investigation show it was made with techniques from the twentieth century. They found documents describing a prank where it was created to fool the professor who vouched for its authenticity. 24.116.117.129 (talk) 04:46, 3 April 2024 (UTC)


 * See Drake's Plate of Brass. By the way was any museum mentioned as having the plate now? Mcljlm (talk) 12:44, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * It's on permanent exhibit in the Bancroft Library at UC Berkeley. Ynizcw (talk) 18:48, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks . Mcljlm (talk) 21:23, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Honorific prefix
@Edward Jocob Philip Smith regarding this edit - "Sir" is the prefix for knights, is it not? Are all vice admirals of the British navy knights by default? If not, "vice admiral" and "Sir" would be two separate honorifics, and I'd think we'd link them both. PhotogenicScientist (talk) 20:01, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @PhotogenicScientist, no other page has the "sir" prefic linked to the "sir" page. The only time I have seen it linked is to Knight Bachelor, e.g. Elton John or Barry Gibb. Is there an article you know with the Sir linked to Sir? Edward Jocob Philip Smith (talk) 20:17, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't know of any articles off the top of my head. But is there a MOS rule for not linking "Sir" to Sir? It not being done at other articles isn't a great reason not to do so here... PhotogenicScientist (talk) 21:41, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If it is not such on a single other article surely it is for a reason 212.250.203.150 (talk) 14:08, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Alright, taking a different approach here, after spending a fair bit of time sifting through documentation on the "sir" prefix...
 * tl;dr - It's probably better to just drop "Sir" into the name field of the infobox. This is quite common across Wikipedia for knighted individuals (ex1 ex2 ex3). It's also not prohibited by the guideline MOS:SIR - which says titles like "sir" should simply show up somewhere in the "infobox heading", which includes both the prefix and name fields. Though there is a contentious history whether this is correct or not... it's permissible per the MOS. PhotogenicScientist (talk) 17:16, 24 May 2024 (UTC)