Talk:Francisco I. Madero

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I'd like to know the source of the claim that "Madero... feared that the existing regime under Díaz would inevitably breed true social revolution..."

In his book, La Revolución, Thomas Benjamin writes, "To Madero, the Revolution of 1910 was a genuine and radical one, but he did not understand or accept the concept of a social revolution. In an address given in Veracruz in September 1911, Madero emphasized that social and economic progress "cannot be brought about by a revolution, nor by laws, nor by decrees." (Benjamin, page 44)" TheDoof 22:58, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

The grammar and overall structure seems poor at best... He ran in the mexican presidency in the early 1900s .Díaz in 1910,(Diaz was currently in power. He didn't back down from Diaz during the election.He was elected as candidate for the Anti-reelectionist movement.This silm gentlemen from nothern Mexico,only wanted for Diaz to share more power among the Mexican elite,but Diaz refused.As a result Madero got radical As a result he opened up the door for other various leaders to run for election; such as peasants. He was arrested in June and then released conditionally in July. Díaz was declared president, with an improbably massive majority, in October 1910.

I don't know as much about Madero as I'd like, but perhaps someone else could revamp it? --Tothebarricades.tk 21:18, 24 May 2004 (UTC)

Madero was a "revolutionary?" Madero's intent in overthrowing Diaz had nothing to do with a revolution, but rather crushing an imminent revolution that was growing with Diaz's policies. He aimed to give small concessions to the Proletariat to make them think that a Capitalist society would be advantageous. - Mawied

He was a revolutionary in the sense that he was an active participant of the revolution, I'd hope some details could be found in the "Plan de San Luis" article. makeyourself 06:57, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Why the grammar is subpar
This article is mostly plagiarized from http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/F/Francisco-I.-Madero.htm

Flying chief
There is no source on how he was the first chief executive to fly in an airplane, and it's not quite clear if this stands internationally, or only for mexican government's leaders. makeyourself 06:57, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

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Here's the image originally illustrating the article, found and scanned from vintage PD paper source for Wikipedia. -- Infrogmation 21:48, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

This is wrong
In accordance with every other account about Madero, he genuininely beleived in his revolutionary ideas. He was a naive idealist, not the calculating politician represented here, bent on thwarting true social progress. Randomdude888 02:50, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
 * You're right, I've added the neutrality disputed template. Mixcoatl 17:06, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Madero's Middle Name
As stated on his birth certificate, Madero's middle name was "Ignacio" and not "Indalecio"

All of you can say what you like about Madero but why not obtain your information accurately. How about from those who were close? Such as family members? It is true that Ignacio is his middle name. I know this because his wife was my Great Aunt Sara (Sarita, as we called her). I have a cousin named Ignacio who passed away that was named after him. My Aunt Sara helped raise me. It is true also that this part of my family were vegetarians. I read someone who said we were "Cryptic Jews." As far as this comment is concerned, in my entire lifetime I never saw anything to indicate they were anything but devoted Christians! If you wish to dispute this, you are more than welcome. However, I lived in the household since childhood. Do you still wish to argue about what I saw and experienced? Thank you. You can reach me at Shahairazaad2@aol.com

Comment from 68.111.39.2
I offer the following for your consideration:

In the 6th edition of A History of Latin America, by Keen and Haynes, probably the most widely used Latin American history text in U.S. colleges, Madero is quoted as stating "the ignorant public should take no direct part in determining who should be the candidate for public office." Not in and of itself a "smoking gun" but a clear indicator of his elitist views. If you examine his Plan of San Luis Potosi, he advocates judicial reform when the majority of the populace was starving b/c of the depression of 1906-1907, with Keen and Haynes writing "his conception of democracy as a formal democracy that would give the masses the illusion of power...but would vest all decision making in the hands of an elite."

Looking at his actions once Diaz had resigned after the Treaty of Ciudad Juarez, interim president de la Barra dispatched federal forces to stop the Zapatistas from the land redistribution they had engaged in almost immediately. Madero did nothing to stop it. Moreover, Madero was convinced that the land should remain in the hands of the hacendados, as it had been under Diaz. In addition, his social and educational reforms were non-existent.

For further clarification of Madero's standpoint I also direct you to "Zapata and the Mexican Revolution" by John Womack, Jr., probably the seminal work in Zapatista and Mexican Revolutionary scholarship since the late 60s. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.111.39.2 (talk • contribs).

His real name
There are not evidences that has been named Ignacio. --Ferbrunnen, I listen to you! 03:25, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, yes, there are evidences that his middle name was Ignacio. I'm Mexican, and in all my live my teachers taugh me that his middle name was Indalecio, but in recient years, historiators discovered his birth act, this document said that the middle name of him was Ignacio, not Indalecio. you can read it on the article in spanish Josegeographic (talk) 01:25, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

First Chief of State of any country to fly on an airplane?
I have read several references to this, however, not in Wikipedia. Is it true?--24.44.93.16 (talk) 05:50, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 15:28, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Junior?
I have in front of me a newspaper article from 11 May 1911 that refers to him as Francisco I. Madero, Jr. Thoughts? I'm not changing the text -  yet. Mark Sublette

Inconsistent claims regarding Catarino Garza's involvement
'On 20 November 1910, Madero arrived at the border and planned to meet up with 400 men raised by his uncle Catarino Garza to launch an attack on Ciudad Porfirio Díaz (modern-day Piedras Negras, Coahuila). However, his uncle arrived late and brought only ten men.'

Catarino Garza's page states he was killed in Panama in 1895, so he couldn't have taken part in the Mexican Revolution. Does anyone have clarity here?

Kthulutude (talk) 23:25, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Journalismo
I don't know why the 27th wak'd the 37th. 174.253.192.116 (talk) 05:48, 28 June 2022 (UTC)