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Pizarro landed at Bay in 1532. After he died traveling through desert and snow-capped mountains, Pizarro and his men (who included Hernando de Soto) arrived at Cajamarca (in 1533), where they captured Atahuallpa, the 12th and last of the Incas. Atahuallpa had just won a civil war against his half-brother (Huáscar), and had executed Huáscar and his family. Atahuallpa had invited Pizarro to a celebratory feast, thinking that the Spanish were not much of a threat. Pizarro ambushed Atahuallpa and killed thousands of his men. Atahuallpa offered a huge ransom for his own release, but Pizarro took the treasure and had Atahuallpa strangled on Aug. 29, 1533; this was the end of the Incan empire. After looting and generally destroying the Incan capital of Cusco, Pizarro founded Lima (which he called Ciudad de los Reyes, which means "City of the Kings"). Pizarro was assassinated in Lima, Peru, in 1541, by followers of Pedro de Almagro (Cortes' captain) who wanted to seize Lima for its riches.

1531 or 1532
There have been several reverts about the date of arrival in Ecuador. this site seems to put the date at 1532. Does anyone have different information? --Hansnesse 18:16, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Incomplete
This article, while informative, leaves out substantial information. There is no mention of the introduction of western microbes into Incan society, especially variola (smallpox). Whether the Spanish intended to spread the disease or not, it spread through native populations weakening their population bases and killing several key Incan figures. There is also a substantial amount missing in regards to Pizarro's encounters with Atahuallpa. There is little regards to Incan versions of the encounter either. It is noted by historians that the Spanish violated traditional Andean diplomacy ceremonies. In the encounter with the friar Valverde, the Spanish unceremoniously fired upon an unarmed entourage, demonstrating a clear sense of disregard for any peaceful negotiations. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.226.160.106 (talk • contribs).

Tons of POV and lack of revision
There is lots of POV specialy in the section about the conquest of Peru such as

''The conquest was a gruesome one filled with bloodshed, plunder, savagery, and untold Spanish atrocities leaving a shameful mark on Pizarro's reputation. It was later found, according to Michael Wood, that several Spanish men had raped Indian women, including Pizarro who violated the wife of Manco Inca.''

There is no point negating extreme violence but those asessments are clearly POV and thus I have erased them.

There are also lots of names of people, studies and media that should be in the reference section and not on the main text.


 * Be bold!!! --Victor12 21:44, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Cortez
I removed the line stating about Cortez and his conquest of the Aztec empire. I believe such information is more relevant in his own article. --Dynamax 15:51, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Pizarro's sculptures
The information about the equestrian sculptures of Pizarro is highly inaccurate. In the spanish wiki there is a lot of information (references included) about this issue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elemaki (talk • contribs) 10:46, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

There is a WP article for American sculptor, Charles Cary Rumsey. Perhaps someone with editing privileges could xref (crossreference) his name in this article so that it directs to the other.74.109.236.194 (talk) 03:11, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

mistake
izarro's general Ruminahui is thought to have buried much of the remaning gold upon hearing that Pizarro was executed, thus creating the legend of The Treasure of the Llanganatis

should be Atahualpa —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.0.36.69 (talk) 04:58, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Problem
The Pizarro's Legacy section has some formatting bugs...I don't know how to fix it, but i figured someone did. Look at it, you'll see them. Also, this article seems almost like a prose writing, not an actual report. They kind of glaze over the facts of his conquest and seem to glorify him a little bit. 76.102.218.69 (talk) 21:46, 22 August 2008 (UTC) Dam —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.163.240.22 (talk) 00:34, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

'Pizarro Seizing the Inca of Peru' by Millais
 This painting is on the cover of the New York Times bestselling, Pulitzer Prize winning Guns, Germs, and Steel. I came to Pizarro's page and expected to see it here. It is probably the most disseminated image of him in existence. I know there are already a sufficient number of photos on this page, but surely this one merits inclusion.--StringRay (talk) 01:19, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Lima and his dead
Pizarro died in June 1541 and the viceroyalty of Peru was established in November 1542.--Edhu9 (talk) 23:10, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

FRANCISCO PIZARRO WAS SPANISH
Pizarro was Spanish. From the union of the crown of Castilla and the crown of Aragon in 1492 is born Spain. Always we never speak about Spanish Empire, about Castilian Empire, it is an incongruity to speak about Spanish empire and to say that Francisco Pizarro was Castilian, to modify the mistake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.120.149.231 (talk) 10:35, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Except that the two were separate kingdoms until the 18th century. Additionally, all lands in the Americas were Castile's - further proving the separation that was long lasting. He was Castillian - just like Cortez (I saw your other comment) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.254.159.120 (talk) 04:57, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Capture of Atahualpa
The article as it stood on March 3, 2012 is seriously inaccurate as regards the most important event in Francisco Pizarro's life, the capture of the Inca, Atahualpa.

The article says that Atahualpa was captured in battle. All histories indicate that Atahualpa was kidnapped during a peaceful discussion, to which Pizarro had invited him as a trap.

I suggest that an expert re-write at least this critical aspect of the article.

Jsryanjr (talk) 13:44, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Image snags




Both fail to render where they were placed. Must be some tags above unbalanced or maybe a mediawiki bug. 72.228.189.184 (talk) 17:17, 6 May 2012 (UTC)


 * To be clear, I'm not trying to place them, they were already there in a broken state when I encountered the page (to redact "regarded as a criminal" to "regarded negatively"). Things being what they are you can't call somebody a genocidal murderer even if they are if it violates some norms. 72.228.189.184 (talk) 17:27, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

but modern Peruvians look askance at Pizarro, considering him the force behind the destruction of their indigenous culture, language, and religion.
What. I don't see a source, this sounds like something someone made up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.189.66.225 (talk) 04:10, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 February 2014
Draft-edition (talk) 14:40, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Pictogram voting comment.svg|20px]] Note:  You did not request a change, but this article is no longer Semi-Protected in any case, so you can edit it yourself, but please ensure any additions are supported by reliable citations. Arjayay (talk) 09:26, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Pizarro's Inca Spouse
The article and the summary both list Pizzaro's wife as Inés Yupanqui. This is incorrect. The woman who bore his sons Juan Francisco and Francisco was Cuxirimay Occlo Yupanqui, who was given the Spanish name Angelina. They were not married.

References: http://www.abc.es/cultura/20140216/abci-princesas-pizarro-esposas-201402152120.html

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuxirimay_Ocllo

http://pueblosoriginarios.com/biografias/cuxirimay.html

http://www.elmercurio.com.ec/475114-memorias-de-cuxirimay-ocllo-esposa-de-atahualpa/#.VpesRFJwtuk

Book: Memoria de la Pivihuarmi Cuxirimay Occlo, by Alicia Yanez Cossio, Manthra Editores, Quito, Ecuador

71.30.0.36 (talk) 14:46, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Pronunciation of Pizarro incorrect
The pronunciation is not [piˈθaro]. It should be represented as [piˈθarro] or [piˈθarːo]. 96.42.57.164 (talk) 15:30, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

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Aguirre: The Wrath of God
One of Francisco Pizarro's expeditions is depicted in this film by Werner Herzog. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swhitemcquillan (talk • contribs) 20:38, 11 April 2019 (UTC)