Talk:Francisco Soberón

Party membership
The article that Messhermit inserted is not even close to being a reliable source. It's on a page that shows it as an example of bad journalism, and for good reason. The article makes several factual errors (it says that Javier Diez Canseco was part of the Shining Path when the Shining Path wanted to kill Diez Canseco, it confuses the MRTA and the Shining Path in several parts, it messes up several things about the United Left, etc.) I think Soberón might have worked for the PUM a long time ago, but I'm not sure. Almost all articles I can find with google are attack peices based off of this article in El Diario Internacional, the Shining Path's newspaper, which ironically attacks Soberon for being too right-wing. I can't find any really decent links as to what party Soberon belonged too in the 1970s (although I found something that implied that he was against the dictatorship that ruled the country back then), and I'm not exactly sure it's even that relevant to the article. --Visitweak (talk) 22:34, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I added another source from a respectable peruvian newspaper, and I can keep on going with the facts: that this "Human Right" activist is nothing more than the political face of the MRTA and many other radical leftlist groups in Peru. Messhermit (talk) 04:58, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I modified your addition a little to make is more neutral and to avoid the rediculous article from derechos.org that basically said there is no difference between the APRA, SL, and MRTA. --ElPeruano (talk) 06:34, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I disagree with this "neutralization" that you mention. The same article states that MRTA members labeled the PUM as their "political part". Soberon is no idiot, and is impossible to try to state the he was not aware of this. Hidding this from the reader is nor only wrong but repugnable. Messhermit (talk) 12:48, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, and the article is wrong. PUM wasn't affiliated with MRTA. UDP was. That is what I mean when I saw whoever wrote it doesn't understand the United Left. There were many many factions.


 * It is also worth mentioning that MRTA was affilated with APRA as well. Should we mention MRTA on the articles of all Apristas? --ElPeruano (talk) 18:20, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * So the article is wrong and you are right? Messhermit (talk) 04:58, 2 May 2008 (UTC)