Talk:Frank G. Zarb School of Business

Rankings
How about some ranking related info regarding the b-school? I know it's a very solid school (as I received an MS from there) and this page should have some type of quantifiable data to reflect that. --24.189.35.249 (talk) 19:28, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Well I remember looking at the rankings a year or two ago, and it wasn't in the top 50 of any list, nor was it ranked int he top regional b-schools of any list. If you can find a bona fide ranking, then sure.  MBisanz  talk 19:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Check out this link. , scroll down and Hofstra is listed under USA - NORTHEAST Ranking of Best MBA Programs Directory. --24.189.35.249 (talk) 19:41, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, since I'm a current MBA student there, and that makes me a bad person to judge a source, I've taken it to our fact-vetting board at WP:RSN to get an impartial view. I'll get back to you here in a day or so.  MBisanz  talk 23:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The response was that it would need to be a more well-known ranking system like US News, Businessweek, etc.  MBisanz  talk 20:01, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, I have an MS-Finance from Zarb ('03) and I am presently working on an MS-Quantitative Finance from Zarb. We know the school has strong alumni support, top-notch facilities, strong faculty and a solid, diverse student body. Here is a link to a book that I have that ranks 68 b-schools into 3 categories; Distinguished, outstanding and recommended programs. Hofstra is listed under outstanding programs. Check it out. [ http://www.amazon.com/Best-Graduate-Business-Schools-Arco/dp/002862503X ] If anybody looks at this book, Hofstra is listed in it. --24.189.35.249 (talk) 01:04, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Then I've probably seen you in class :). I know there aren't that many Quant Fin majors.  My suggestion since that book is a Reliable Source is to write up an addition, cite it by filling this in  and then I'll find someone who can insert it.  MBisanz  talk 02:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Good idea. here's the info. The Best Graduate Business Schools, 3rd Edition. Thomas Bachhuber, Ed.D. 1999, Arco Books, Amazon.com, 0-02-862503-X, 251-255.--24.189.35.249 (talk) 19:09, 25 February 2008 (UTC) Damian M.

Ed, this is the stuff I need integated either in the opening or the Degrees section, feel free to reword for POV: " The Zarb School of Business is ranked "outstanding" by the list of Best Graduate Business Schools.  MBisanz  talk 04:42, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi MBisanz. I got your message asking me to look at this, since you feel that you would have a COI inserting it yourself. My first thought is that a number of these business school articles have the flavor of advertising. However the paragraph over at Harvard Business School looks like a good attempt. It includes rankings from several places, and it manages to work in some sourced criticism of the school as well. I realize it would be a lot of work, but do you think you guys could come up with a paragraph for Hofstra that is as well-balanced as the one for HBS? Surely Hofstra is rated by the same services as those that scored Harvard. I haven't heard of this Arco guide, and merely saying Hofstra is 'Outstanding' doesn't tell us exactly where they fell (top 20? top 5?).  EdJohnston (talk) 05:00, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Ed, this is a tough one. I know Hofstra is somewhere in the top 500 based on it being AACSB accreditted but its not in Princeton Review's top 290, its not in these top 50 , its not in this meta-table , not in Business week  , according to USNews (I have an account), their unranked , Forbes is also unranked .  So other than a string of "It is unranked by X, Y, Z, Q, P, and rated outstanding by A, I don't think there is any hope of coming close to Harvard's level.  Since I asked you to eval the COI issue, I'll leave the editing (or not-editing) call to you.  MBisanz  talk 05:55, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It sounds to me that you might be able to craft a paragraph that admitted they weren't ranked by the majors, but still have virtues. (Sourced virtues, of course). To include only Arco, without mentioning the other facts you just stated sounds a bit unbalanced. Why don't you go ahead and propose some language here, and I'll take one final look?  EdJohnston (talk) 06:08, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * "While the Zarb School of Business is not ranked by national publications such as Forbes or US News, it is distinguished as being the first school on Long Island to offer an EMBA program and one of 169 business schools nationwide to receive the AACSB's Accounting and Business accreditations . Additionally, it has been noted in Arco Book's The Best Graduate Schools as being ranked Outstanding, on the continuum, Distinguished, Outstanding, Recommended ." Lets try this.  MBisanz  talk 06:53, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me! I have added it to the text. Your paragraph includes a number of new references, and should add to the credibility of the article. I made it the second paragraph because there is a similarly-located 'Rankings' paragraph at Harvard Business School. EdJohnston (talk) 13:18, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

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