Talk:Frank H. Netter

Plagiarism?
Supposedly, a few of Netter's illustrations are copies of old German anatomy illustrations where the source isn't cited. I don't have any specifics at the moment, but I know someone out there knows what I'm talking about. It says nothing about his skill as an artist, which is unquestioned.Hnc 04:20, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Update: I contacted the professor who made the claim, and this is what he said: Yes, Netter propped open someone else's atlas and "copied" most of his images from them instead of from dissections. The originals were by Werner Spalteholz, a Professor in Leipzig. I'm familiar with his "Handatlas der Anatomie des Menschen", a 3-part atlas published by S. Hirzel in Leipzig in 1929. Hnc 05:24, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Your good professor may very well have said/seen this, however, that may differ from reality of the published final painting.

As it happens, I, [Craig Luce http://Medical-illustration.com], worked for/with Frank Netter in the last years of his life (1989-91), reviewing/revising and painting his sketches in watercolor. My illustration works appear alongside his in his last volume: Ciba Collection of Medical Illustrations, Vol 8, Part III, Musculoskeletal System: Injuries

As a medical illustrator of 30+ years, I have studied every anatomy text, and have owned Spalteholtz' volumes for that time. (By the way, the paintings in Spateholtz were done by employed medical illustrators, not by Dr. Spalteholtz himself.)

I have also examined all Dr. Netter's original paintings in the Ciba Collection. Despite the copyrights having been sold several times, the originals remain with Ciba/GEIGY Pharmaceuticals (once designated the Medical Education Section) in NJ.

I can say that, while some images may have been referenced or sourced, Netter's illustrations are indeed original, not "copied" as mentioned here. Frank respected copyright and hoped that his would be respected as well. Yes, he gave me sources that were to be used as reference, but I have not found a single illustration of Frank's that was "essentially the same" as any other reference! There are, of course, only so many ways to depict an anatomical landscape, especially when it is of a small or singular view or organ.

While he may very well have sketched directly from a book as notation, I am confident that none were entirely copied. Maybe a vein or two, but not in the sense that the above discussant implies. That being said (and I am very knowlegeable of Dr. Netter's work and practices FIRSTHAND)

The discussion above should thus be read as having been rebutted by an expert. Art4med 00:52, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

infobox
I started the infobox, it still needs lots more info, maybe even a picture, filled in.AZDub (talk) 16:27, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Adds to "Career"
Briefly added to this section; Paragraph inserted to note re-scanning of his art; ref to video inserted; Someone should reference his daughter's new book (I am without the reference just now), released 2012. Art4med (talk) 19:31, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Citations?
References should include sourcing of text, some of which is mine own (personal communication), though not added by me. See http://Medical-illustration.com/WorkingWithNetter.htm Art4med (talk) 00:53, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

There is a two-year-old "citation needed" note for the "personal Sistine Chapel" quotation. The quote is cited everywhere, including by NIH. But nobody provides a source reference. I've been digging into this every which way I can (more than just Google), and I can't find any indication that it ever has been an identified source. I thought that the Saturday Evening Post article or the book by his daughter would be likely sources, but I came up dry. I'm not sure how this is handled on Wikipedia. Leave it tagged like that forever? Remove a famous Netter quote that is cited everywhere?/Bruce/ [aka Slasher] 01:41, 13 August 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brucewh (talk • contribs)

The quote
"This was in 1933—the depths of the Depression—and there was no such thing as medical practice. If a patient ever wandered into your office by mistake, he didn't pay".

I'm pretty sure I read this in Catch-22, said by Doc Daneeka. A coincidence maybe?

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