Talk:Frank Miller/Archive 2

Requested move 8 December 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: moved to Frank Miller. There is a strong consensus that the comic book writer is the primary topic. The disambiguation page currently at the base title is moved to Frank Miller (disambiguation). (closed by non-admin page mover) Lennart97 (talk) 11:10, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Frank Miller (comic book writer) → ? – The name should be either "Frank Miller (comics)" or "Frank Miller (cartoonist)" or "Frank Miller (comics creator)". Frank Miller is best known for comics that he both wrote and drew. The standard for creators who have both written and drawn comics is to use "(comics)" (see John Byrne (comics), Archie Goodwin (comics), Brandon Graham (comics)) or "(cartoonist)" (see Jeffrey Brown (cartoonist), Charles Burns (cartoonist), or Jeff Smith (cartoonist), though "(comics creator)" is used occasionally (see Michael Davis (comics creator)). Thematthewmurray (talk) 03:53, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Support Frank Miller (comics) per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 04:14, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Move to Frank Miller due to the article makes him a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per pageviews. He received 97% |Frank_Miller_(politician)|Frank_Miller_(singer)|Frank_Miller_(cellist)|Frank_Miller_(screenwriter)|Frank_Miller_(murder_victim)|97% more pageviews than any other articles named "Frank Miller". An DAB page can be moved to Frank Miller (disambiguation). 125.167.59.200 (talk) 06:22, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * I'd also support moving him to base name, and moving DAB.--Ortizesp (talk) 00:07, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Move to Frank Miller (using the primary topic identification); Frank Miller (comics) would be the second choice in case of tie. --GimmeChoco44 (talk) 10:45, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * In addition, Miller is also a film director and producer among other things. Limiting him to just "comics" or "comic book writer" would not be accurate. --GimmeChoco44 (talk) 19:36, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Move to Frank Miller, with Frank Miller (comics) as a strong second choice. I don't have a ton of experience in identifying primary topics, but the reasoning above is sound, and he's the only Frank Miller I had heard of prior to this discussion. The current title is not suitable since Miller is comparably well-known as an artist as he is as a writer.--NukeofEarl (talk) 16:46, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Authorship
Did he really write the song from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2? 70.121.136.12 (talk) 04:13, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes. ~ HAL  333  04:35, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * FYI "the song" is called "Ninja Rap." If you ask me, it depends on what you mean by "write." As in, is Frank Miller credited appropriately for the song and/or is it possible that he surreptitiously acquired part of the the copyright? Vanilla Ice was infamous for giving up part of his copyright for "Ice Ice Baby" to Suge Knight, for example. He could have brokered a similar deal with Frank Miller but shuffled the terms a bit. Often there's a kernel of truth to Internet rumors like this, and I'm sure the facts will emerge in the fullness of time in the form of WP:RS. - Scarpy (talk) 06:58, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * It is accurate, imo 107.143.185.90 (talk) 08:36, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Ugh, don't encourage people. This was a joke in a Red Letter Media video. RLM make a specific point of telling their viewers not to edit the Wikipedia article. Jesus, imagine how good Wikipedia could be if we didn't have to spend so much time cleaning up after immature randos. Zagal e jo (talk) 15:23, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Go Ninja, Go Ninja, Go! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.146.249.208 (talk) 19:59, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

GO NINJA GO NINJA GO
He also wrote the Ninja Rap sung by Vanilla Ice featured in the second Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles film 2601:408:8002:1EA0:31D8:8D12:755E:1CB4 (talk) 04:45, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Famously reliable source Rich Evans, an A-List celebrity who's appeared on Ellen and worked alongside Macaulay Culkin, has confirmed this. That's going in.  Trilobright (talk) 22:10, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The vandalism related to incorrect claim is from this joke in a Red Letter Media video about the Ninja Turtles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZZbXDA3uRQ&t=46m20s // sikander { talk } 🦖 00:55, 24 December 2022 (UTC)