Talk:Frank Poole

Question
Hi ! In the article, I tried to add more information about the chess game played by Frank vs. HAL. Do you think Franck is really murdered by HAL as it is written in the article? In my opinion, Hal attempted to kill him (in the movie) but he didn't succeed! Thanks! --Eric Guez 06:23, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Eric...sounds like you need to read 3001: The Final Odyssey


 * Hi Eric, it was I who deleted that Chess part. I was a Chess lover while a kid with a lot of time at hand, and even now, I have nothing against Chess. But imho, the article had a tad too much about Chess - an average reader, when heard the name "Frank Pool" would never think of "Chess". We don't need to add any more than necessary - although I feel the current article is too short about Pool's role in the story. Hope you would understand.


 * About HAL, HAL_9000 is also a good answer to your question. Greenleaf 10:00, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

I moved the chess game to a separate page, and reduced the content here to a link. I think that's probably appropriate for this article - the chess game isn't really that significant in the movie. Unfortunately, now the article really needs to be expanded. I don't remember the movie that well, but I remember Poole talking with Dave Bowman (HAL reads their lips), and it's a major part of the plot when Poole dies. Sim man 19:23, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Rewrote this a bit
The part after Poole dies due to oxygen deprivation wasn't really explained all that well so I added some details, hope nobody minds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.29.233.149 (talk) 14:32, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Born 1996, Space pilot by 2001?!
Who the hell wrote that his birthdate is established later as being in "1996"?

That would make him four years old when the Jupiter mission begins.

I'm removing this, due to sheer stupidity. AndarielHalo (talk) 14:03, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

All parts about Poole's being killed
Need to be changed to "apparently killed", because that is what it was. Poole's body was freeze-dried in outer space, and it was cast off in the direction of Jupiter, where a gravitational encounter expelled it all the way beyond the orbit of Neptune. His body was found by a spaceship in about 3001, and then he was revived and restored to complete consciousness. NOT DEAD. He even fathered two children later on. 98.67.163.16 (talk) 23:50, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Added more information and corrected mistakes
I added much more information about Poole, and I corrected a significant number of error. Here is not the place for speculation. PUT THE BOOK in you lap and get things exactly right instead of saying. "I think so." For example, Poole's boyhood hometown was given by Clarke as Flagstaff, Ariz. He was either born there or he was taken there at a very young age. It doesn't make any difference if he was born in San Luis Obispo, etc. As for me, I don't even remember the place where I was born, or the place after that. What is inportant is the first place that I can remember. For Poole, that place was Flagstaff, Arizona, his hometown. 98.67.163.16 (talk) 23:50, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Poole's higher education
In the novel 2001, it is clearly stated that both Poole and Bowman had earned their Ph.D.s in General Asronautics. Then several times in the film, they are addressed as "Dr. Poole" and "Dr. Bowman". A character's, or a real person's, higher education is a quite important part of his/her background, so we should say so. How did anyone miss this? As for some real astronauts, we have had Dr. Edwin Aldrin, Ph.D. from M.I.T., Dr. Sally Ride, Dr. Owen Garriott, Dr. Edward Gibson, Dr. Joseph Kerwin, and Dr. Judith Resnick. Dr. Aldrin's Ph.D. was in the science of rendesvous & docking, which was something that was critical for Apollo 11. Aldrin was also an expert on EVAs. All of the others above also had their doctorates in engineering or the physical sciences, except for Dr. Kerwin, a Navy flight surgeon, who was the first American M.D. to go into outer space. 98.67.163.16 (talk) 23:50, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

The first M.D. to take a spaceflight...
The first M.D. to take a spaceflight was a Soviet cosmonaut who flew in a space capsule called Voskhod 1 in 1964. He was actually a very young doctor, but he developed a specialty in disorders of the human balance system. Interestingly, his father was a noted cardiac surgeon, and his mother was an opthamologist. His father also had a lot of pull with the Soviet Politburo, and that was how his son ended up getting to go on a spaceflight. Sadly, it seems that it might have been better for the son to have followed his father into a coronry specialty, because he died of a heart attack in 1991. Yikes, that was over 20 years ago! 98.67.163.16 (talk) 23:57, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Discription of the Discovery One
The Discovery One was an unimaginably-huge SPACESHIP, and no other description such as "spacecraft", "ship", or "bird" could possibly describe her. Don't do it. Gemini 7 and Apollo 8 were "spacecraft". However, the Discovery One, the Alexi Leonov, and the ENDEAVOUR are SPACESHIPS, and the USS ENTERPRISE is a STARSHIP. Let's give credit where credit is due, and not go around using Mickey Mouse words. 98.67.163.16 (talk) 00:06, 22 July 2012 (UTC)