Talk:Frank Spedding/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: SNUGGUMS (talk · contribs) 18:49, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

I will review this article. Expect comments within a few days. Snuggums (talk / edits) 18:49, 21 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Infobox
 * A picture would be nice to have here
 * Yes. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * So why is there no picture in it right now? Seems incomplete without one Snuggums (talk / edits) 01:19, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't have one. Hawkeye7 (talk) 02:26, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Google Images has tons of pics you can use. Keep in mind that using non-free images is fine for biographies of the deceased. Snuggums (talk / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 03:51, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I have uploaded one I have on my server. Hawkeye7 (talk) 04:14, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. As the pic has an appropriate FUR and is (obviously) relevant to the article, I can now pass this for GA. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 04:23, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * For an American subject, MDY format should be used for dates per MOS:DATE
 * Converted the dates. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Lead
 * Is Spedding known to have had Canadian citizenship? If not, he should simply be described as an American chemist rather than a Canadian American per MOS:BIO, which says to generally just include nationalities.
 * All the sources call him a Canadian, but he acquired U.S. Citizenship when his Canadian father was naturalized. Added this. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * See above note on MDY format


 * Early life and education
 * Again, use MDY format
 * His mother's maiden name (Marshall) should be included
 * Added. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Did Spedding have any siblings? If so, include their names and whether they were older or younger
 * None are recorded. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * A "was" should be placed between "he" and "born" in "Soon after he born"
 * Corrected. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * "showed great promise" doesn't really seem formal or neutral
 * Deleted. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Early career
 * I've said it before and I'll say it again: please use MDY because this is an American subject
 * How and when did Spedding first meet his wife Ethel? How long were they together before marrying??
 * I know how, but not precisely when It was while he was at Berkeley, which means somewhere between 1929 and 1931. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * When was his daughter born?
 * In 1939. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Add a comma after "Around this time"
 * Done. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Manhattan Project
 * MDY, not DMY
 * "The best way"..... most effective would be a better description
 * Uh.. okay. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Later life
 * I'd make these four short paragraphs into two or three longer paragraphs per MOS:PARAGRAPHS, which discourages really short paragraphs
 * Done. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Once again, please use MDY
 * "Over the years" → "Throughout his career"
 * Done. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Is "250 peer-reviewed papers" referring to the 260+ articles mentioned here on page 3 of the PDF?
 * Yes, Changed to 260. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Dead link needs to be replaced
 * Restored from archive. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * This does not explicitly mention December 15, though I did find that date here, and it can be used in place.
 * Added. It does implicitly though, since we know December 16 was a Sunday, so Saturday was December 15.
 * It's probably worth including he had three grandchildren at the time of his death
 * Done. I don't normally include grandchildren, because often more are later born.
 * If known, I'd include what Spedding died from
 * Not known. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Patents
 * I don't see how this section is really needed as it only contains a list of links
 * Removed. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Notes
 * Again, MDY should be used
 * For FN16, I don't think it's necessary to include page numbers for the Seaborg PDF or have it as an sfn ref as it is the only reference to this document
 * I like to keep the books down there together. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Even so, the PDF wasn't exactly a "book". I've adjusted accordingly.

All points addressed. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry for not getting to this sooner, . Good work so far. The main thing this needs right now is an infobox image. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 01:19, 30 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Overall
 * Well-written?
 * Prose quality: Decent, but needs improvements
 * Manual of Style: Could be better


 * Verifiable?
 * Reference layout: Questionable use of "Sfn" for one of the refs
 * Reliable sources: Looks good
 * No original research: Close, but not quite


 * Broad in coverage?
 * Major aspects: Mostly good, but a few bits are missing
 * Focused: No excess detail


 * Neutral?: Almost


 * Stable?: Nothing of concern


 * Illustrated, if possible, by images?
 * Appropriate licensing: Does not apply since there are currently no photos used
 * Relevance and captioning: It would be worth adding a picture of Spedding to the infobox


 * Pass or Fail?: Placing this on hold for seven days. Not too many problems with the article. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 03:35, 26 August 2015 (UTC)