Talk:Franz Kafka

Nationality
Assigning historical figures modern nationalities is always questionable, but in the case of Kafka calling him Czech is certainly incorrect. He was a German-Jewish (German being his only native language) from Austria-Hungary). 213.55.224.121 (talk) 19:28, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Jewish isn't a nationality. See MOS:ETHNICITY  Acroterion   (talk)   13:31, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Frans Kafka has hardly set his foot in Germany and cannot possibly be German. He lived and worked in the Czech Lands - in the Czech city of Prague. He spoke and wrote perfect Czech. He was a Czech Jew with a Czech surname. He was obviously not a German Jew. Franz Kafka took Czechoslovakian citizenship when he got the chance in 1918. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.23.6.193 (talk) 14:39, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * He spoke German, and the article doesn't say he was German. The Germany we have today didn't even exist when he was born. He was an citizen of the Austrian Empire, which - without his choice - became Czechoslovakia in 2018. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:32, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

He was primarily Jewish author. He would move to Izrael, but back then Izrael didn't exist. Czech Jews choose German language for practical reasons, it was quite common. Because he never lived in Austria, he had czech ancestors, he was born in today Czechia and spent all his life here, he spoke Czech very well, had Czechoslovak citizenship from 1918, he was without no doubt Czech. Čapek, Hašek, Masaryk and Alfons Mucha were also citizen of the Austrian Empire but nobody says they were Austrian. Why? Annikahegarova (talk) 12:51, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I restored a former wording and added Prague. For citizenship: the infobox has it best. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:49, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * "Izrael" has nothing to do with Judaism. 142.126.188.216 (talk) 14:28, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Gerda Arent is wrong. Czechia existed before Austria. The Habsburgs were crowned Czech kings. Last one was Karl I in 1916. Franz Kafka did not choose his Austrian citizenship, but chose his Czechoslovak citizenship and his siblings were also Czechs. They were killed by the Germans during the Second World War, by the way. Bohemia has always been Czech Crown Land. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.23.6.193 (talk) 14:51, 20 February 2023 (UTC)


 * I'd like to point out this has been discussed at length, particularly regarding Kafka's daily experience and cultural traditions he stood in, at Talk:Franz Kafka/Archive 4. I'd like to particularly point to the last post in that section which discusses these matters in depth. --2003:DA:CF39:B871:E507:A917:C1BB:2257 (talk) 12:54, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Ellipsis, direct quote
From MOS:CONFORM – "'A quotation is not a facsimile and, in most cases, it is not a requirement that the original formatting be preserved. Formatting and other purely typographical elements of quoted text should be adapted to English Wikipedia's conventions without comment, provided that doing so will not change or obscure meaning or intent of the text.'" What are your reasons for reverting? — TARDIS builder &#9993;    • &#9733;       02:03, 25 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I just edited the ellipses again. The first ellipsis follows a period at the end of a sentence, and, since an ellipsis is three periods and the end of a sentence already has a period, we have a total of four periods. The other two ellipses come in the middle of a sentence, so they need only three periods, but there should be spaces around them so that the first of the three periods doesn't appear to be the period at the end of a sentence. At least that's how I see it. Maurice Magnus (talk) 02:18, 25 April 2024 (UTC)