Talk:Frasers Group/Archive 1

Clothing and equipment
In this section, are we meaning those sold in store, or those owned by Sports Direct? Some such as Diesel have been added, which is sold in store, but not owned by Ashley. 92.13.80.9 (talk) 13:01, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It's supposed to be those owned by Sports Direct, so I've removed those it doesn't own. Gr1st (talk) 13:23, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Sports World Merge
Would a merge make sense? 92.9.86.174 (talk) 07:55, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * i was in chester the other week and there is still a sports world there, or atleast according to the shop sign. it may not have been changed92.8.49.103 (talk) 04:15, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think it does any harm to have the website as a seperate article: after all the Lillywhites article is seperate Dormskirk (talk) 21:14, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Important non-marketing issues
It is an insult on the collective intelligence of 1 billion people who rely on wikipedia as a source of information to educate them on global matters, if wikipedia pages are being used for self promotion by businesses. This page should not serve as an advertisement platform for SportsDirect and its businesses, but as an educative platform for the over one billion people who make reference to wikipedia.

The origianal article as composed, denies readers the chance of understanding, debating and discussing the principal factors that define and identify Sportsdirect as a brand. Hence, the article can best be described as incomplete, inaccurate, intentionally misleading and not upto date.

Sports Direct is a brand that identifies with discounts, selling discounted products all year round. Readers need to be aware of the issues related to the choice they make when they shop with sports direct. This page is not a page to promote sportsDirect as a business, but to inform and educate readers on the identity of SportsDirect.

SportsDirect business identity and practices reflects all that is wrong with the world as it today with regards to child labour and deprived childhood. Capitalist tendencies that promotes the cheap production of goods and services. There are many dangers associated with SportsDirect's business identity and what the company stands for. Discounted and cheap products are the end results of a long chain of negative inactions that defy any sense of justice and fairness in the world that we live in.

Through this article page, we are able to educate persons on the choices that they make and the direct consequences of this choice. Cheap and discounted products from cheap labour sources in third world countries imply underpaid children workers, deprived of their childhood ,fundamental liberty and a beffiting future. The sports direct article should reflect the choices that people make by patronising these businesses, in the hope that millions would be delivered from capitalism induced child slavery.

Absolutely, its high time that buyers are educated on the choices that are made. This does not involve casting aspersions on the image of the company, but presenting an unbiased view to the public.Laurachalk (talk) 00:40, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Merger proposal
Many recent press reports (e.g. here) have not disambiguated between SportsDirect.com and Sports Direct International plc. This makes it unclear for which of those two articles such reports should be used as sources. That, and some other factors, beg the question: should these two articles be merged?

Some possible reasons in favour of merging:


 * the press and public do not seem to distinguish between the two companies;
 * it could also perhaps be argued that the two companies are not independently notable;
 * merging the articles was Talk:SportsDirect.com, but not discussed.

In favour of not merging:


 * SportsDirect.com and Sports Direct International plc are apparently distinct legal entities (the former is a subsidiary of the latter), and should therefore potentially have separate articles;
 * just because conflation of them is widespread does not mean this confusion should be perpetuated within Wikipedia.

Please state below whether you are in favour of merging the articles, against this, or neutral. Thanks! zazpot (talk) 20:35, 7 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Neutral In my mind, the arguments for and against merging are equally strong. zazpot (talk) 20:36, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Support Although very little in the SportsDirect.com article is independently sourced and not already covered in the Sports Direct article. Dormskirk (talk) 21:18, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Support - All of what's in the SportsDirect article can easily be covered at Sports Direct international, Not really seeing the need for a seperate article and as the SD.com article is very poorly sourced it makes sense to merge it all. – Davey 2010 Talk 22:47, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Support Encyclopaedia, not business directory. Keri (talk) 22:50, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Castore
An IP has on several occasions added material suggesting that Castore is a subsidiary of Frasers. This article date 31 October 2019 suggests that it is owned by Tom and Phil Beahon. If the Beahon brothers have sold out to Frasers that needs to be properly sourced. Dormskirk (talk) 09:35, 8 May 2020 (UTC)


 * This page probably needs protection: it has been the subject of extensive edit waring over the above subject in the last 24 hours. It may be there is some commercial dispute at the bottom of this - but that is no reason to spread false information about the ownership of the Castore business and brand. Dormskirk (talk) 08:53, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I've reverted recent edits and semi-protected this page for a month in the hope that a discussion and some sources will be forthcoming, rather than disruptive edit-warring from multiple Scotland-based IPs. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:26, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for that. Dormskirk (talk) 14:57, 2 July 2020 (UTC)