Talk:Frasier W. Crane

My comment after a brief review: It's no improvement over the existing article. Just feels like there's a lot missing. And in what there is there is some awkward phrasing - "mentions what Sam is told by Frasier about his family." Wwwhatsup (talk) 05:18, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * What information is missing? I need specifics. --George Ho (talk) 03:17, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

"Frasier is found out as an orphan".
I'm unclear as to what this is implying. Joefromrandb (talk) 03:13, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, here goes: "Frasier is discovered to have become an orphan after his mother's death in Cheers." What do you think? --George Ho (talk) 03:16, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that's the best way to phrase it. An orphan is generally a child without parents. An adult who loses a parent is not usually called an orphan. Joefromrandb (talk) 03:37, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * "Two Girls For Every Boyd" proves (see Martin Crane) that Frasier claims his father is dead. When did he mention in Cheers that his mother died? --George Ho (talk) 03:54, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Your wording may be technically correct. I'm just suggesting that it may improve readability to rephrase it. Just my opinion. Joefromrandb (talk) 07:22, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * While I feel that your rewording is an improvement, I'm still not keen on the use of the word "orphan" in this sentence. But this is only my opinion, and you may wish to seek wider feedback. Joefromrandb (talk) 07:37, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Move to Seattle
Some tweaking may be needed here for factual accuracy. Fraiser doesn't exactly move to Seattle "to live with his father and housekeeper". In the first episode, Frasier winds up more-or-less "stuck" with Martin, and hires Daphne to help. Living with the two of them was not his origiinal intention in his move from Boston to Seattle. Joefromrandb (talk) 07:33, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I made some adjustments to the background. Somehow, I barely know Frasier other than the fact that he is uninspirational and boring, as the same reason Diane Chambers dumped him. --George Ho (talk) 15:54, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Your adjustments are good, but the section still requires extensive copy-editing. I'll keep at it as time allows; were getting there George! Joefromrandb (talk) 16:31, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Significant other(s)
You may wish to consider adding Charlotte Connors here. She was significant enough for Frasier to change plans at the last minute and move to Chicago. Joefromrandb (talk) 05:07, 16 May 2012 (UTC)