Talk:Frazier Park, California

Water area
"ALL of it is covered by water"? Hmm. I think the US Census Bureau is wrong... I just drove through there last week and it looked pretty high and dry to me. ;) Perhaps we should modify this, despite what the Census Bureau website says? RockBandit 20:52, Aug 3, 2004 (UTC)

Generic Frazier Park
Regarding Cuddy Valley, Lake of the Woods, et al: Do you mean that the Census Bureau considers these all part of Frazier Park for census purposes? US Geological Survey sees these as separate. Talk:David Jordan

No, though it might. People of those communities say they live in Frazier Park. Wikibout-Talk to me! 04:23, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

External link(s)
Kindly refer to EL before adding an external link. Yours sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:13, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

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Government
At this edit I removed text from this article with the edit summary "Remove unencyclopedic detail". This was reverted here by with edit summary "Restoring. It's important to the story." I maintain that the inclusion in the article of a list of names and mini-biographies of otherwise non-notable people (with the greatest respect to the individuals concerned) in article about a small community is much more detail than is required in an encyclopedia. I'd be grateful for the opinion of others. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:27, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, there. Often WP is the only source for information about small towns. Why omit information which is of value to a community, no matter its size? WP is not limited as to size. I did not see any reasons here to remove so much info, or any info, from this article. Thanks. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 00:12, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * (3O) - Agreed it's too much detail. WP shouldn't be the only source for anything at all, as a tertiary source. It's not a substitute for an official local website (nor an extension thereof). As per fundamental content policies, aspects of a subject we cover should be roughly proportional to coverage of those aspects in the body of literature about a subject, without going into too much detail. Biographical statements about non-notable local officials isn't something we would typically include, except when those people are an important part of the town's history (and covered by reliable sources as such). &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 17:08, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * BTW it's usually better to have a bit more discussion before going to 3O rather than just one message apiece. :/ &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 17:09, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I don't know what 3O means. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 06:28, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
 * . it's a Third opinion
 * thank you for your time, and specific and general advice. Regards, Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:09, 15 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Sorry, BeenAroundAWhile, there's a special template I should've used which would've linked to 3O. It's typically an early (and pretty informal) step in dispute resolution. The idea is that, for arguments that two people can't resolve, a third opinion is often useful (granted, it's not usually used after just one message by each party :/ ). It's not binding, however, and you can choose to use one of the other DR processes if you like (like an WP:RFC), but I would be very surprised if it went a different way. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 14:19, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I've used Third Opinion a couple of times. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 17:11, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding the helpful request at the top of the page to update this section. In the meantime, the accepted version should remain because of WP:Bold, revert, discuss. There was a (1) Bold move to delete most of the section, then a (2) Reversion, which was followed by a (3) Discussion on this WP:Talk page. While it's being discussed, the original wording should be retained. The retention will help any interested editor to update the section. A discussion has begun, but it hasn't continued long enough for a decision to delete anything. Sincerely, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 23:00, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

In the meantime, I suggest solving this problem by deleting the text of the "Government" section and referring the reader to Mountain_Communities_of_the_Tejon_Pass, which has the same information, but updated. What do you say? BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 00:21, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I think you're subverting process. I opened a discussion. After a week there was a response from only you. I then asked for a 3rd opinion which agreed that there's too much detail. I therefore deleted the material again. After a further week you have restored the detail. How much more discussion do you want? The section you link to has precisely the same problem: too much unencyclopaedic detail. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:57, 21 March 2020 (UTC)