Talk:Freakbeat

Issues with article
I'd take exception with a couple of claims on this article

"Freakbeat music was typically created by four-piece bands experimenting with newly-emerging studio production techniques"...I disagree...I'd say it was more to do with experimenting WITHIN the confines of straight studio recordings

"The freakbeat scene was more prevalent in the United Kingdom than in the United States, and was especially popular in the London suburb of Bexleyheath" Bexleyheath? How can something be popular in an area when it wasn't even defined til the eighties

"The term is also often used to describe similar music from mainland Europe, particularly Holland, where it also known as Nederbeat."- no, nederbeat was general beat music made in Holland. It encompasses freakbeat, but is not the same thing


 * To unsigned editor: I agree that most of the studio recoding's were straightforward (only after 1966 did they become more elaborate, but still simpler than the better known bands that had a lot more time and money in the studio). And, the focus should be on the musical style of the bands, anyway, not the production.  I also agree about the "four piece bands" thing, because not all of the bands were four piece. Some had five members, but usually not more. So, I changed it to read something to the effect of "usually four or five piece..." and narrowed the focus to  the bands' sounds, not production.  Obviously, Freakbeat does not refer to American bands, but it looks like that claim was removed a while back.
 * However, even though the term, "freakbeat," was coined in the 80s, it refers to music of the 60s and that's OK. The article explains that it is used as a retronym.  Yes, fans of this music often do sometimes refer to continental European bands as "freakbeat." The Dutch bands are sometimes called Nederbeat, but the usage of terms overlaps.  The article, on these two matters, is very accurate to my best judgment, as most sources would confirm. Garagepunk66 (talk) 20:44, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

List of bands
Do other users agree with adding the list of bands? Many other genres have such lists and I think it would be helpful. Of course, if reliable sources are provided for each band listed. StjepanHR (talk) 11:30, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

the Producers
To me the idea of Freakbeat is just as much about the sound of the production, as it is related to the bands and the individual performers. I think it would help with this article to put some focus on the producers - of course when I hear 'freakbeat' the first thing that pops into my mind is 'Joe Meek'. I'm sure there are others who contributed to the Freakbeat sound, but a listen to 'I'm Not a Bad Guy' (Heinz and the Wild Boys, incl. Ritchie Blackmore) as well as 'You're Holding Me Down' (the Buzz; Tam White the Buzz, not David Bowie's the Buzz), should convince anyone that these were prototypical sources for what soon became Hard Rock of the late 1960s into the 1970s (no coincidence with the Blackmore connection). Ronster76 (talk) 00:48, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia distorting history (again).....
I was staggered to read that this has been applied to Mods and Rockers stated as being 1950s and 1960s when freakbeat didn't exist.

Other examples are Underbone being applied to 1950 Honda step-through (in this 2008 indiscrimnate change) when underbone didn't exist, and caffay racer when it was never applied to UK society at large, being just a figment of American imagination in/from 1973.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 11:12, 13 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Someone in London using the IP range Special:Contributions/2A02:C7C:5079:A200:0:0:0:0/64 has been shooting from the hip, making lots of changes without reference to published works. Binksternet (talk) 14:03, 13 October 2022 (UTC)