Talk:Fred Agabashian

nov 30 2006
Not sure what the problem is.... presumably your secret source of info. clearly, if, as his 1952 run is universally described, "It led for most of the way, but broke down after the engine ingested debris" in 1952, the table probably shouldn't say that he led 0 laps. Given that, in addition to the oddity that your "laps" column bears a suspicious resemblance to the points column in the Formula 1 results table you deleted as POV(??), the odds are that either you or your secret source goofed and the column is GP points, except that he got 1.5 points for finishing fourth, not 1 point. Similarly, given that the 1952 engine was notable as the first incidence of a turbocharger at Indy, it's less precise to call it a supercharger failure instead of a turbocharger failure. Also, could use an explanation of what the rank column in your table means.

Not sure why you want to delete the three sentence summary of his Indy career, along with the two references; did you intend to revert back to your last version prior to my meddling where you had deleted all reference to Indy from the intro as well ("Fred Agabashian (born 21 August 1913 in Modesto, California, United States, died 13 October 1989) was a midget car driver.") and deleted the reference section entirely? Gzuckier 15:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Indy ain't F1
Freddie Agabashian was no more an F1 driver than I am. Indy's participation in the F1 is a footnote to the history of both series, not a significant part of either. Don't include F1 points in the Indy results column! For more information take a look at the discussion here.

The column you've co-opted is the "laps led" column, not the F1 points column. --Mycroft.Holmes 15:58, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * On, I absolutely agree he's not a F1 driver, but he is an indy driver. I'm starting to lean towards the "laps led" theory after all, since I can't find anything that disagrees anywhere. Although I don't know he can dominate the race leading 1 lap, but that's not my problem.... Gzuckier 16:11, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Here are some references to Agabashian's career.


 * http://www.indy500.com/stats/drivers.php?drivername=Fred%20Agabashian


 * http://indy500.tjs-labs.com/list-driver?name=FRED+AGABASHIAN


 * The Indy 500 was a Formula One World Championship event from 1950-1960. As such, he technically participated in Formula One, even if only for this one event. Twirlypen (talk) 06:07, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * More precisely, the Indy 500 was a round of the World Drivers' Championship from 1950-1960 (the championship wasn't officially called the "Formula One World Championship" until 1981). It's labelled as "Formula One (World) Championship" in the section heading and infobox for consistency across articles and per WP:COMMONNAME (i.e. it's "the championship which is now known as the Formula One World Championship"), even though that wasn't the name when Agabashian participated. DH85868993 (talk) 06:27, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

High compression
In '48, Agabashian qual'd a Cummins-powered roadster that broke on Lap 71. Colin Chapman 17:59, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Removed Asian-American category
Iranians and Armenians are an Indo-European and Aryan people. They are not Asian.--CreativeSoul7981 (talk) 00:16, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

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