Talk:Fred Armisen

So is Armisen grandfather or grandmother German?
I'm going to say grandmother beccuase of his last name, but I'm not too sure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.213.193.29 (talk) 04:09, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Merging
What exactly are we merging to what? Fred Armisen doesn't need to be merged into anything. He's a reperatory player on Saturday Night Live. The Bob Talbot 05:58, 6 November 2005 (UTC) Oh I get it. You want to merge the parts of that list into all those pages, and then delete that list. That's a good idea. The Bob Talbot 06:45, 27 November 2005 (UTC) I think he is big enough to have his own page. He was one of the most popular characters in the movie EuroTrip as a creepy Italian guy. -- GURoadrunner Definitely big enough to have his own page...Creepy guy in Eurotrip, SNL, etc...plenty of justification.

Multi-racial
Why does it mention he's multi-racial and then not specify which races? Pointless. Unless anyone objects in the next 48 hrs, I'm going to go ahead and remove it. Besides, he looks like your average white guy to me. 66.9.126.26 19:08, 14 March 2006 (UTC) The IMDb says he's "of German, Japanese, and Venezuelan descent." Is it relevant to point out someone's racial heritage if it's not immediately obvious? I guess it is an interesting bit of trivia but I don't know how to work that in there without it sounding awkward. I agree though that just listing the guy as "multiracial" and not defining it is improper. Everyone on the planet is multiracial when you get down to it! The Bob Talbot 22:33, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Being 1/4 Japanese makes you asian? --awh (Talk) 02:16, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

If this guy looks like your typical white guy to you, then so does Wesley Snipes! I can clearly see the blackness in him. Of course the black comes from Venezuala... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.89.86 (talk) 02:55, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Not first SNL Asian
Fred Armisen is *not* the first SNL cast member of Asian descent. That goes to Rob Schneider (1990-1994) who is of part Filipino heritage. -- silentandroid 08:00, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Breaking Character
There have been many actors to grace the stage at Studio 8H. Almost all of them could be considered as having a reputation for never breaking character. Perhaps it is a warped view we SNL viewers have these days in the post-Jimmy Fallon-era. Actors aren't really supposed to crack up in every sketch. It may be fun to see somebody slip up every now and then. But, Fallon (with Horatio Sanz and others in tow) took breaking character to tedious heights. And apparently, he has bent the curve as this article suggests that it is, in fact, unusual or novel for an actor to properly perform his part.Swatson1978 23:22, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

He came pretty close in the Hugo Chavez Political Roundup last night. Amy Poehler's "Kim Jong Il" was effective enough to crack his face. - The Lake Effect 21:13, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Writes for the Dos and Don'ts of viceland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.37.159.188 (talk) 06:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Blackface?
Is wearing makeup to impersonate someone the same as wearing blackface? Armisen says it's not. I can't see where his rendition of Obama used racial stereotypes, so calling it blackface is a bit POV.--87.162.18.100 (talk) 16:23, 9 October 2009 (UTC)


 * This makes as much sense as asking a racist if he's being racist, and then take his opinion on racism as standard. It's not POV at all to not take the person in stake's take on such a matter as important. --93.134.226.13 (talk) 00:14, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

He does not look as if he is wearing any makeup. He looks mulatto which is why they had him play Obama as oppsed to an all or mostly black man. If whites think that this guy looks white, then I guess anyone can join the club. Can Farrakhan join? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.89.86 (talk) 02:58, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Born in Venezuela
Is Venezuelan ?

Foreigners
I've been told to supply a source, which I did. Then I got reverted again for "presenting fact as opinion", which I remedied. Having two editors oppose vs. one editor support is not a consensus, per WP:DEMOCRACY, which I cited. I've done my share, but Hullabaloo Wolfowitz reverted me once more in an ongoing edit war, for which he "kindly" sent me a 3RR warning, which he himself violated. Fairness, anyone? I've restored the pre-dispute version, per WP:BRD. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 02:15, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * It's not even clear what a "feral foreigner" means and it's certainly not clear that it helps the reader's understanding of the subject (Fred Armisen). Beyond that, the lede should contain general information and not statements that belong to one person.  If Armisen were generally known as a "feral foreigner" and this was just one example of that then maybe it would belong in the article somewhere but it would still not belong in the lede where it's just plain confusing. SQGibbon (talk) 03:23, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I would assume that "feral" means "wild, odd behaved" in this context. This type of character is what I always see Armisen play (outside of SNL) when I stumble upon a movie that he is in, and although my personal view is not the standard of Wikipedia, this is an objective observation, rather than an opinion. This is why it helps readers understand the subject better, by recognition (it's that guy we saw play that weird character that spoke broken English with a strong accent). This is borderline typecasting for Armisen, which is especially recognizable for non-SNL watchers, and the source more than satisfies the WP:BURDEN. Excluding this bit seems like a case of WP:POINT and is not helpful in any way. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 04:26, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think anyone is disputing that this source made this claim, what we're arguing against is if it is appropriate for use in the lede. Again, the lede is for general claims and this seems to be a specific claim made by one person and given the vagueness of the meaning of the phrase "feral foreigner" it is clear that it does not belong in the lede.  If you want to add it somewhere else in the article talking about the kinds of roles that Armisen takes then it might be fine there, but in the lede it just sticks out as confusing and odd.  And like I said above, if other critics had used similar phrasing then it might be appropriate for the lede but since it appears to be from just this one person then it does not belong here. SQGibbon (talk) 04:47, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

OK, done. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 18:52, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

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Documentary Now!
There is no mention of Documentary Now! anywhere in this article except the Filmography section. That should probably be remedied.Pistongrinder (talk) 20:00, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Art preference
There is no reference for the supposed fact that he likes the art of Joe Coleman — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.126.73.48 (talk) 21:55, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

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David Paterson's opinion of Armisen's impression
The article states "it was David Paterson himself who spoke out against the impression, as he felt it was insensitive to the blind and visually-impaired" without any indication of where this information comes from. A quick online search brought up a news story with a Patterson spokesperson being critical, but Paterson himself not having much to say about it. Certainly Paterson couldn't have disliked it very much, since he appeared with Armisen doing the impression and both men rolled around aimlessly on their chairs, blocking camera views - one if the most potentially offensive aspects of the impression. Anyone out there have substantial proof of Paterson speaking out against Armisen?--ChasFink (talk) 17:42, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Elisabeth Moss
Elisabeth Moss is quoted as saying Armisen does a great impression of a normal person. But the source actually says she agrees with "someone else" who said that (Moss is quoting someone else).

The sentiment is the same, but the quote shouldn't be attributed to Moss without specifying that she is quoting someone else. 74.106.9.165 (talk) 03:14, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Did Fred Armisen himself go to Tokyo Imperial University?
Right now, that institution is listed in the grey box under his photo next to "Education." But from what we have in the early life and family history section, it appears it was his grandfather, not him, who would have gone to school at that Tokyo university. This Seattle Times article also seems to indicate it was the grandfather who went to TIU, and doesn't mention anything about Armisen himself going there, too, which would have been notable. 199.21.134.134 (talk) 20:42, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Is Fred Armisen, Alfred, Alfredo, Wilfred, Wilfredo or Frederick
I don't think how he's called Fred for someone who's not named Alfred, Alfredo, Wilfred, Wilfredo or Frederick? There is a Fred Savage (that Fred is actually Frederick according to his birth name) and there are some Freds that just simply Fred such as the late Fred Rogers? Winnebaggo (talk) 21:49, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Whatta tangent

 * Armisen's mother was Venezuelan, born in San Fernando de Apure, while his father was born in Soltau to a German mother and South Korean father. For much of his life, Armisen thought his paternal grandfather Ehara Masami was Japanese; however, Masami (better known by his professional name Masami Kuni or birth name Park Yeong-in) was actually South Korean and came from Ulsan; he adopted a Japanese name and persona after the massacre of Koreans in 1923 when he was a high school student. Park studied aesthetics at Tokyo Imperial University and became a professional dancer before moving to Germany. After the war, he returned to Japan, and formed a premier modern dance company. He eventually emigrated to the US, where he taught dance at what is now Cal State Fullerton from 1964 to 1975. Park Yeong-in's family were members of the Korean aristocracy, and Armisen's Korean lineage can be verifiably traced back to the 1600s.

I haven't presumed to prune back this run-amuck detail on Fred's grandfather—but that should be done, IMHO, unless the intention is for this article to be a comedy piece itself. – AndyFielding (talk) 11:30, 26 April 2024 (UTC)