Talk:Fred Dyson

Contested deletion
This page should not be speedy deleted because...I don't particularly care about the issues related to the page creator. Fred Dyson has been a public figure in Alaska for over a quarter century, including almost 15 years as a state legislator. He certainly qualifies for inclusion on here. WP:ALASKA hasn't exactly been around lately to do its job.--RadioKAOS (talk) 08:48, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * What's the point of banning him if we're not going to delete his contribution? FuFoFuEd (talk) 08:59, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion redux
Reposted from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject US State Legislatures. What started as an issue (I felt was) specific to Ohio has branched out to affect legislators from other states. I'm not so interested in the politics of this user being banned or of G5. If there are issues which need to be addressed to improve this article, please address those. Thank you.

If anyone is still paying attention over here, apparently, there is an SD war going on over state legislator articles created by a banned user (OSUHEY) and associated sockpuppets. The politics of that is really beyond my scope of interest. Of interest to this project, I would think, is that new articles are being created for state legislators (part of the short term goals I've read of on this project's page) and are being deleted for reasons peripheral to the subject's notability or the likelihood that the article can be expanded. I've twice found myself having to point this out in the case of Fred Dyson, which was deleted and quickly restored the second time an SD request came about. In the most recent instance, the admin in question repeatedly pointed to G5 in spite of other admins pointing out that the subject's notability trumps that consideration. From browsing around, it appears that this same scenario is occurring with other state legislator articles.
 * After having posted this, I am going back and reading through this issue in a little greater detail than I did before. Apparently, this all began with OSUHEY posting material in serial fashion which may have been copied and pasted from the Ohio Legislature website in violation of copyright.  From my perspective, how a state legislator in Alaska has managed to become involved with this issue is something I find totally bizarre.  The only possible connection I see is that in the discussion, OSUHEY is suspected to be a GOP operative.  I would have never found myself involved in this issue if not for the fact that I was already working on Alaska legislator articles.  Most of the work I've done so has been offline, and in many cases it may not be ready for prime time.  As it specifically concerns the Dyson article, my question is this: is there a specific problem with copyright violations in this article, or has it just not been expanded quickly enough to suit the tastes of one or more admins?RadioKAOS (talk) 07:58, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

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