Talk:Fred Moten

Targeted editing
My post on The Universal Machine has been removed because the user (who clearly has personal issues with me like a 6th grader) thinks it is weird to just post on one book while no other books have been summarized.

What does the editor mean to say? Do they mean to say that the page should remain empty unless some user posts all details of all books at the same time? This does not make sense at all. Everywhere, every user makes one or two posts, and others follow suit. Has every single bibliography been created all at once? This is really funny.

The user clearly and barely understands any of the things being posted. They are a hateful racist spiteful creatures who keep proving their low cunning and their ignorance and their inferiority. I don't care about any other posts. Feel free to ban me. You're a disgrace as a community, and I pity you. I am glad this hatemongering happened sooner rather than later. I will not engage here or anywhere else anymore. feel free to do whatever you want for my userpage.

Peace out. Ktf87 (talk) 05:40, 25 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Just observing that this user has been blocked for personal attacks, such as in this comment. --JBL (talk) 21:31, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Fred's identity
Just want to note that in an academic setting today I was at with Fred he said he hates being called a "philosopher," wishes people would stop with that label. He didn't elaborate exactly why (although we were throwing shade on Kant), but perhaps as reference, Trinity Church in Manhattan posted a video of Fred giving a sermon on January, 19 2020 on MLK and called him a "poet and professor." -bluehoag 22:40, 20 October 2020

I went ahead and made the edit. I replaced the descriptive 'philosopher' with 'cultural theorist,' as this is how Fred describes himself on the MacArthur Foundation website in a video filmed in preparation for his grant recipience. I kept poet, as he also describes himself thus, and scholar, because he is literally that, teaching and writing right now, among other places, at NYU. -bluehoag 17:38, 17 December 2020

I'm not going to edit the article but I just wish to point out: Just because Fred does not like being called a "philosopher," that does not mean he is not one, or that it would would not be appropriate to call him one for purposes of a Wikipedia article. Fred has directly engaged with philosophy in every book he has written, including his poetry. In my view, Fred is a philosopher, even if he hates being called one. Again, I won't edit the article: I just wish to open up further discussion on this question. -Ash Giri, 9:25 p.m., 30 August 2022 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:6B0:30C0:DEB:894:7120:F39A (talk) 01:25, 31 August 2022 (UTC)