Talk:Frederick Hart (sculptor)

Discussion
I think the article is incredibly short. Also, I would like some mention of the people who have posed for him (such as Vanna Bonta) and a little more bout, well... everything. His life, his works and maybe some more pictures. Gingermint (talk) 01:35, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Added reference to Vanna Bonta and more bio. Mgrē@sŏn  13:47, 13 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I might be able to come up with pictures of some of the cathedral work, but the other stuff he did is under copyright and will get removed from here. I know, I've had dozens, maybe a hundred pictures fall victim to that ax.  My sources (Tom Wolfe)  say that the model that he used for the Creation was his future wife, Lindy Lain Hart, so let us not rush into anything.  Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 02:21, 17 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Carptrash, You cite Tom Wolfe as your 'sources' (multiple) that the model of US sculptor Frederick Hart's work Ex Nihilo was his wife. Could you please forward a contact email where I can verify that Mr. Wolfe told you she was the only model? Would like to clear it up since I have info that there was more than one model, some who were paid, and there is more than one female figure in the piece. Thanks. IMC.esq (talk) 06:03, 19 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Gingermint, great idea. How about contacting Vanna Bonta's management and get some pics and accounts. IMC.esq (talk) 06:03, 19 November 2009 (UTC)


 * "Ex Nihilo" has four male and four females. It was the last of the three tympanum sculptures on the western facade of the Washington National Cathedral. Hart used 25 nude male and 4 female models. A local model Robert Parke modeled for Hart's trumeau figure of Adam. Vanna Bonta was a model for the second from the left female figure." Italianstud-lina2 (talk) 09:19, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

legal dispute
I miss mentioning the "Ex nihilo-legal dispute" with the makers of the movie "The Devil's Advocate". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Devil's_Advocate_(film) --93.135.40.132 (talk) 00:34, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

POV
I removed the following phrase from the lead: "...and was an infamous draft-dodger during the Vietnam War, in spite of which he was hired to design an addition to the Vietnam memorial." If Hart in fact opposed the Vietnam War, avoided the draft, etc., it may (or may not) merit inclusion in this article. But it needs to be rephrased--"infamous draft-dodger" is highly POV and would seem intended either to slander Hart or to rile up his detractors, neither of which is appropriate for an encyclopedia article. Also, the implication that it is surprising that he was given the Vietnam Memorial commission in spite of his "draft dodging" is POV that may not be appropriate and certainly doesn't belong in the lead.PurpleChez (talk) 23:48, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Nice move. Carptrash (talk) 00:53, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

As a continuation of this I just moved this here, to talk about.
 * "He is also a Vietnam War draft-dodger. "
 * Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 17:05, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

The POV tag was applied two years ago, and there hasn't really been anything said or done since. I was looking for a source to attribute Hart's political views (Vietnam, Conservatism, etc.) but I really haven't found anything. No sources were cited when he was called an "infamous draft-dodger". Are there any sources citing his opposition to the war? If nobody has anything to discuss, I'm going to remove the tag. Mgrē@sŏn 16:00, 13 May 2013 (UTC)


 * More than two weeks, and no comment, so I removed the POV Tag. Mgrē@sŏn  12:15, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

I just moved this section, and tagg here

 * "—which has brought about a resurgence of interest in the human figure and in the idea of beauty in contemporary American art."
 * this implies that Hart or his work was responsible for " a resurgence of interest in the human figure and in the idea of beauty in contemporary American art." and that is, I believe, unsupportable. Mainly because (opinion) it is not true.  Carptrash (talk) 20:19, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

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Moved to talk page
I am moving this here until there is a reference Carptrash (talk) 15:49, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Hart' s assistant from 1996-1999 was a Russian born sculpor Mikael F. Sogoian.

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Discussion: Move Section to New Page
I suggest a new full page Wikipedia entry for Ex Nihilo (Creation Sculptures) BlurtswanRefresh (talk) 13:45, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

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