Talk:Frederick Trump/Archives/2019

Illegal emigrant
I seem to have got into an edit war with an IP (who's now registered themselves) about Trump being an illegal emigrant. I have two questions. 1. Is it relevant? 2. Is is a correct fact? As far as I can see, his papers, visible in the article show his immigration (not emigration) and barring refugees, immigration (legally) isn't possible without the corresponding emigration. However, my point here is that this seems to be done in order to confuse readers. A lot of people do get confused between immigration and emigration. Perhaps it could be worded better? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 20:55, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

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Surname
According to my research on the database of the Verein für Computergenealogie, Trump's earliest known male ancestor was not Johann Paul Trump (1727–1792), as stated in the article, but Johann Sebastian Trump (1699–1756). In the database, no place is given. The chain of Johann Sebastian Trump's offspring is as follows: In fact, Johann Paul Trump (1727–1792) is in no direct ancestor of DJT. --Phrontis (talk) 18:45, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Johann Paul Trump (1727–1792): no place given.
 * Johannes Trump (1789–1836): place of birth Bobenheim, place of marriage and death Kallstadt.
 * Christian Johannes Trump (1829–1877): place of birth, death and marriage Kallstadt.
 * Friedrich Trump (1869–1918): grandfather of Donald Trump.
 * After finding an older ancestor, I could finally update the article. --Phrontis (talk) 13:48, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Citizenship
The introduction says he "never legally became a US citizen", but later that he voted in a presidential election and "became a US citizen". Which is it? Was this a case of an immigrant voting illegally?!Gymnophoria (talk) 19:31, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Early Life
"Confessionally, the village was Lutheran in contrast to most of the Palatinate which was Calvinist and the Bavarian mainland which was overwhelmingly Catholic".

This is partly nonsense. The village was Protestant because in 1818 following a parishioners' plesbiscite in 1817, all Palatine Lutheran and Reformed congregations merged into confessionally united Protestant congregations. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelical_Church_of_the_Palatinate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.196.238.113 (talk) 12:11, 1 September 2019 (UTC)