Talk:Frederick of Naples

last King of Naples of the House of Trastámara
Wouldn't this honor belong to Ferdinand III of Naples?--Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 02:14, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Or even to his daughter, Joan III of Naples? Of course, she wasn't a king (being a woman), but for all intents and purposes, king is equivalent to queen regnant. Surtsicna (talk) 20:18, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the proposal was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 00:33, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Frederick of Naples → ? – What is the most common sourced name? Did he used the name "Frederick IV"? Relisted Armbrust The Homunculus 19:27, 28 December 2013 (UTC) --The Emperor&#39;s New Spy (talk) 21:24, 21 December 2013 (UTC)


 * The enumeration "Frederick IV" is not unused, although I do not believe that Frederick himself used it. It seems to be most popular among art historians, for some reason. Cf. e.g. C. Warr and J. Elliott (2008), "Introduction: Reassessing Naples, 1266–1713", Art History, 31: 423–37.
 * We could go with Frederick, King of Naples, which is how we deal with his predecessor Robert and with many unnumbered kings (but not always, see Martin of Aragon). —Srnec (talk) 06:35, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Because if it wasn't complicated enough, I have sources calling him Frederick II of Naples. Bleh. Evidently, the "Fred IV" comes with counting the numbering of Aragonese Sicily (Trinacria) when they were separate from mainland Sicily (Naples), which I presume a good Spaniard  might do (although legally incorrect, as 14th C. Trinacria Sicily was notionally subordinate to Neapolitan Sicily).  The "Fred II" types only count kings which actually held Naples - that would mean the first Hohenstaufen and this one.  The simple "Fred" I suppose relies on omitting Fred Hohenstaufen as he was pre-separation (i.e. held both Trinacria and Naples).  So all three are plausible.  Many of the sources that use only Fred usually write him in full as "Frederick of Aragon, King of Naples".  But not sure if that's the ideal solution. Walrasiad (talk) 07:22, 5 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Oppose Keep It Simple Stupid, as he is the only Frederick on the List of monarchs of Naples why not leave him there? PatGallacher (talk) 00:51, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
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Weird sentence

 * A combination of King Louis XII of France and Frederick's famous cousin[2] King Ferdinand II of Aragon had continued the claim of Louis's predecessor, King Charles VIII of France, to Naples and Sicily.

What does that mean? --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  22:55, 9 August 2021 (UTC)