Talk:Fredericton

Reading Trail
The picture of Reading Trail should be restored. The substituted picture is an unsourced, unnamed picture of some trees. Uninteresting and no indication of even where it is. The original picture is a better photograph, is specifically named and sourced, illustrates several points made in the text, and is more typical of Fredericton trails. JoKing (talk) 10:16, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

I've edited the caption for the Reading Trail image as I just finished hiking through there today and saw nothing that I recognized as "old-growth forest" - can anyone provide some local information supporting this information? thanks Wadlooper (talk) 15:34, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Please don't take out information based on "your opinion". Post to the discussion page if you think a change is required, and back up your argument.

I've reverted the change because Reading Trail does go through a swatch of old-growth forest: Although there is no one definition of old-growth forest, generally it has three characterisitics:

1) The forest habitat possesses relatively mature, old trees;  Yes, Reading has very mature pines, and particularly some very old cedars. 

2) The old-growth trees have long continuity on the same site;  Yes, the site has never been developed.

3) The forest itself has not been subjected to significant inhabitation by mankind that has altered the appearance of the landscape.  As above, but for the narrow walking trail, the forested site has never been developed. 

The Nature Conservancy of Canada defines old-growth forest as: 1) Old-growth forest contains some large and old trees, but all age classes are present. Yes

2) Old-growth forests have not been subjected to a significant disturbance such as wildfire or clear-cutting for a century or more. Yes

99.251.202.68 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:54, 4 June 2011 (UTC).

The reason I changed the image was that the "Reading Trail" picture is not at all representative of Fredericton's Trails. It shows a cleared grass area with a beaten path. Fredericton's main trail network (not this isolated trail) has either pavement or gravel surfaces. I think having such a picture gives the impression that Fredericton trails are just meandering recreational paths through parks, whereas in reality they are linear paths popular for transportation as well as recreation. It's nice that it's an old growth forest, but that doesn't really have anything to do with the trail network. The image I posted is not unsourced. The source is on the image description page, which also indicates the location the image was taken.Reaperexpress (talk) 00:37, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

"In reality" the Fredericton Trail system is a combination of many different types of trails, most of which are not paved (yet). Many of them are nature trails and it's perfectly representitive to have those pictured. And Reading Trail is PART OF the Fredericton Trail System - check the city website and the Trails System brochure. 99.251.202.68 (talk) 10:31, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Live near the trail system and walk there most every day. I'd have to agree with the above poster. Lots of nice nature walks on the smaller trails, also snowshowing in the winter and dog walking all year around. 65.121.228.201 (talk) 16:19, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Photographs
The picture of Kings Place labelled "Downtown Fredericton" isn't very representative of the downtown character. Has anyone got something more typical of the area? Z57N (talk) 14:28, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

St. Marys First-Nations Reserve
There should be a section about the St. Marys Indian Reserve, as it is one of Frederictons distinguishing features. St. Marys has been and continues to be an important and influential part of the community. Each year the community puts on an excellent Christmas-lights display, and it has begun to expand commercially within the past 7 years or so.

Will Hickie

Feel free to write and add this section. It would be interesting. JoKing (talk) 10:18, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

History of early Frederiton?
Where can I find the early history of Fredericton? 131.202.32.5 21:54, 17 December 2005


 * You can try visiting City Hall. 131.202.140.173 17:24, 24 January 2006

Charlotte Street Arts Centre
Someone should write about the Charlotte Street Arts Centre for the Culture section. ChrisErb 17:18, 28 January 2006

Good idea. You should feel free to write and add this section. JoKing (talk) 10:20, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Lansbridge University
An IP with no other contribs added reference to Lansbridge as a University in town. It appears to be, from the website, a University that is primarily online. I'm not sure if that is really the goal of the opening boast segment about our universities. We have two well established universities with large campuses, while Lansbridge appears to be located in one building where CompuCollege used to be. The website does list a number of faculty, so it may simply be that I'm excluding it because it's new and I'm not yet aware of its merit. (Or I'm stuck, despite my net-experience, in a real-world-university mentality, since most appear to be at other universities...) I do tend towards thinking that perhaps until it becomes larger, more prestigious... or at least more well known around town, it isn't really an appropriate trumpeting point for the city. Maybe even if they just write a bit more about the University? - Mr. Cat 04:21, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Frederictonians
Is this category needed at all? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raistlin11325 (talk • contribs) 06:27, 11 February 2007
 * Yes. Fredericton is a notable community.  (Though admittedly not tremendously notable.)  If notable people are Frederictonians, then that makes the category a cross reference of two notable things.  - 142.167.82.25 (talk) 22:27, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Demographics
The demographic breakdown on the ethnicity list doesn't make sense. It adds up to more than 100%, and doesn't take the significant aboriginal population into account. What is the source for this info? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.5.236.254 (talk • contribs) 17:08, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree that something looks odd, unless the aboriginal population is counted in the mixed race column. However, if the percentage is slightly over 100%, that's just due to rounding. Does anyone have a link for the latest census or similar survey that would have this data? —C.Fred (talk) 17:46, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I read that the French-speaking population is 33%, but here they give a minuscule number for French only, and a number much smaller than 33% for people who speak English as French. Add to that that these figures aren't even sourced, and they start to look a little fishy to me! 123.3.95.88 (talk) 18:06, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Protection
Due to the high incidence of vandalism over the last several days, much of which is from the 204.82.154.* subnet, I have protected the page for three days. —C.Fred (talk) 14:46, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

New pictures?
Does anyone have some pictures of Fredericton to upload that are of good quality? Most of the pictures on this page are quite unappealing and unrepresentative of the city. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omertop (talk • contribs) 03:21, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Greater Fredericton
Within the next few weeks, I will probably create both a page and category of "Greater Fredericton" as I have done with Saint John, Moncton and Shediac to help manage the page a bit better and move the information that is not actually in the city limits here. Please let me know of any objections here. Thanks Hogie75 17:46, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Two Sections With The Same Title And Related Content
The main article currently has two sections (2 & 11) both called "Neighbourhoods"... I question the need for two identically named sections... perhaps some creative editing can combine them or find another structure for the information.

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Cleanup proposed
This article is not quite aligned with a number of Wikipedia guidelines and could do with a tidy. I propose doing some edits as follows: Any thoughts or concerns please post here. --Cornellier (talk) 23:50, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * prune some text that is forked at other articles like History of Fredericton, Anglophone West School District, etc.
 * while not everything has to be referenced, there are some lengthy sections with no refs at all.
 * remove some of the "tourist guide" info such as by what store a given mall is "anchored".
 * prune some redundancy e.g. parks are in sports and in culture
 * remove or replace some low-quality pictures
 * remove one of the two climate charts
 * remove some red links
 * Weather boxes are and remain a useful feature on all Wikipedia articles, and removing them is not productive. 47.55.89.182 (talk) 15:17, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Pronunciation
I need a citation for the informal form of Fredericton, which drops the second r (Fred-ik-ton). I've been hearing it all my life (currently live twenty minutes away) and have heard it used frequently on CBC Radio's broadcasts originating from there. But that's not good enough for some editors.

I can find references for the old form that pronounces the second e but not the modern one that's become more and more common over the decades.

Anyone got a reference? I don't feel like slogging through CBC audio files to prove some outsider expert wrong. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 23:41, 21 December 2020 (UTC)


 * It's weird that after wading through dozens of sites that are incomplete or just plain wrong (computer phonetics, anyone?) the first site I've found that mentions the informal way of saying the name is an article on a satire site.


 * The Manatee leaves out the dropped pb in Campbellton (Camel-tun) that's de rigueur on the CBC Radio afternoon show nowadays but the others match what I've heard from natives. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 01:49, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

writers
not one woman in the list, bros ! 2607:FEA8:E964:2F00:E5A4:3B68:B87A:36CE (talk) 16:44, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

"Freddy the Nude Dude"
I added a section on the "Freddy the Nude Dude" statue/fountain that sits outside city hall. If anyone can think of/has heard of other niche Fredericton cultural pieces please let me know. Laursturg (talk) 23:27, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Partner Cities
So I took a look at the claim that Fredericton is partner/sister cities with Gangnam, and I can't find any sources for it. It seems to be part of vandalism from 2008 that somehow never got reverted. Edits by that user were also reverted on the article for Gangnam itself claiming Fredericton was partner cities with it. I'm asking here as it's been sitting there for 15 years and I'm not sure how this would be handled. KyranBitmapper (talk) 08:40, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * For now, add a tag to the section to mark it as needing a citation. There are editors who like looking for these things. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 17:03, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Universities
I will be adding links to the university's that are provided on this page, such as the University of New Brunswick and St. Thomas University. (Jnllhmbl (talk) 14:26, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Geology/topography
Fredericton's topography with a relatively wide semi-abandoned floodplain at the bottom of a steep valley has always interested me as it's not something I've noted in other areas. If someone with a background in earth sciences that would know what to search for wanted to add a bit about how that landscape formed (I'm assuming in relation to the river?) I think it would be an asset to the article (and satisfy a long-running curiosity of mine). Thanks! 99.226.3.52 (talk) 03:58, 23 June 2024 (UTC)


 * And I suppose as an addition to that, the history of the riverbank infrastructure - all along downtown on both sides there's massive amounts of work that's been done building rock retaining walls, and I've never heard anyone mention them. May come back to this one eventually and answer it myself if I find a good source, but for now I'll just see if anyone knows anything abt them 99.226.3.52 (talk) 04:10, 23 June 2024 (UTC)