Talk:Free party

Untitled
Hi, Not sure where to put this as at work and short of time, but the pic box is overlapping the text! Ta 86.180.18.214 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:50, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Europe? What's that?
The intro paragraphs are mostly good overall. But were they written by a Europhile? There's a hell of a lot of mentions of 'Europe' for something as autonomous as a rave/free party. The concept is broad enough that it could appear any time in history, which is fine, but if by 'Europe', you're referring to the phenomenon born around 1985-1988 in Manchester, England, and the South with groups called 'sound systems' such as Spiral Tribe etc, and the parties that were later copied in the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Slavic countries etc, then the definition should mention that as a key example -eg The Summer of Love (1989). ~'Sound system' could be more prominent. Keep it general, sure, but nobody raves in 'Europe'. They rave, or they rave in a specific place as an example. Like saying Drum and Bass originated in 'a NATO member state', it draws unnecessary attention to the political motivations of the writer. 2.110.239.227 (talk) 12:18, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Free Party, Squat Party and Rave
These three overlap and I think they need to be joined in some way, any suggestions? -- rex the first Dec 19, 2005 (GMT)

The new merged version is much better - my only minor issue is that the term "rave" to denote a free party (or a less regulated event in a club) is still used amongst older people in the UK (in their mid 20s-30s) and many other who attend the more "underground" events.

Clubbing is seen as a somewhat more commercialised activity with more of a "bling culture" (fashion/jewellery), more posing/attempts to pull and (in some cases) more violence!

This usage of language may of course be different in other countries... General Lighting 21:17, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

I think in general a good job, well done Funjiman brown

NPOV
Too many things to detail, will mention only one..

In the 'Law (in the UK) and Police response' section the following sentance - 'It also was introduced to kill a popular youth movement that was taking many drinkers out of town centres drinking on taxable alcohol and into fields to take drugs.' is definatley npov, many others and not the time to edit myself.


 * I have removed the POV I can find and removed the tag, will be happy to remove more if you suggest, also please sign your comments on talk pages. Rex the first 20:10, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

editing
nice work! i also see some stuff to edit here, will come back soon, currently im busy on the teknival page and will use this page as one of my templates Mujinga 00:47, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Laws on parties outside the UK
A request for help: I only know about the laws inside the UK if anybody knows about other countries laws please help!

Rex the first talk 23:46, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Description as a "rave" still current
Where I live, in Norfolk, UK, a free party is called a rave, amongst people in their late teens and early twenties. Perhaps the suggestion that it is called a "rave" less and less is erroneous? It hasn't been cited. 84.68.201.70 22:38, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * My associates and I still allege to be "going to a rave" when our nocturnal festivities involves such legally dubious publically hedonistic pursuits. As such I second the above query... Jdcooper (talk) 18:19, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Two things
Two brief things:
 * 1) At a free party recently, which was charging, the police turned up around half past three and told the organisers that the free party could continue, so long as they weren't charging. Does anybody know how that fits into the law? Is charging something that only licensed mash-ups, sorry "night-clubs" are allowed to do? Or were the police just trying to find some way to impose some kind of policial authority on the proceedings?


 * 1) Secondly more of an anecdote than anything related to editing the article: The following is stated proudly: Parties become autonomous zones, with self policing and control being established by all attendance. If people make trouble calling the police is not an option so sometimes the music is stopped and the trouble makers are simply told by all the party goers to leave. Well the weekend before last a group of about seven "trouble makers", after being told to leave the premises, waited outside and beat the living shit out of me and my mate, who happened to be the next people leaving. No particular point to that, but share a quibble, share a laugh, eh? Jdcooper (talk) 18:25, 28 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Charging is illegal as that contrivance the public licensing laws. The party sounds as if it was illegal anyway but the police have limited resources.
 * In town centres people start fights every Friday and Saturday night. At parties this also happens but as they are inherently illegal it is impossible to have the final resort of asking the police sort out the problem so they become 'self-policing' - you can still get attacked but if some large brawl occurs then the party will have to address that or everyone will leave.   Rex the first  talk 17:26, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I ran annual raves in central/south London during the 90s in squatted housing.
 * The local police would make a courtesy call early on, and presumably assess the likelihood of policing issues after talking to me and generally observing the event. They never mentioned stopping the charging of an entry fee nor passed comment on the selling of alcohol.
 * I too had issues with "trouble makers", and when a group of them reacted violently to being asked to leave I gave up organising raves on public safety grounds. Fan &#124;  talk  &#124; 12:02, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Intro Adverts
The intro has been converted into an advertisement. If anybody knows anything about this, please respond by Wednesday or I am reverting it. Mythicalmonk (talk) 03:02, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


 * It's not this article that was affected: the transcluded DIY party was hijacked. I've reverted this. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 10:54, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Straight Edge users rare
I've removed that note before for lack of references. Apparently it was added back without my noticing (with the same bad reference which doesn't support the assertion). Rex the first recently replaced it with a new reference, but I'm getting an error related to not accepting cookies when visiting the link, both in FF3.5 and IE8. Can someone get a real, working reference please? --ShadowRangerRIT (talk) 16:16, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Garbage article
Rife with OR, few sources, does not sufficiently make a case for being any different from a rave party, illegal or otherwise. yonnie (talk) 20:47, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
 * 9 years later, this article still sorely needs sources. I feel it is an important piece of history, so should be better covered. But we need reliable sources, not just folks coming and writing about their experiences with the culture. Surely some academics or music journalists have researched the scene. Ashmoo (talk) 10:25, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * yes, some have researched aspects of the culture, reams have been written at this point, if this subject interests you, please improve the article by consulting appropriate sources, for example search "free party" here. Acousmana 13:26, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

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