Talk:Freed–Hardeman University/Archive 1

all the rule? really?
Do we really need all of the minutae of the rules governing every aspect of campus life in an encyclopedia article? Other Christian univeristy articles are generally not written in this manner. Yes, it's really strict, not just compared to public schools but even most other Church of Christ schools. But wouldn't the link to the Student Handbook suffice for most of this? Rlquall 05:04, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Granted Freed is strict but that much detail is not necessary at all. I was just there last year serving as an intern-librarian. They have loosened up and are not as strict as some of the other Church of Christ schools whatsoever. That part of the article should go. Smk 10:34, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Possible Copyvio
Much of the information in this article appears to be copied verbatim from the student handbook -- available online at: | http://www.fhu.edu/onlinePDFs/studenthandbook/hb0304.pdf. Is there any permission for wikipedia's use of this text? --Chiacomo 04:59, 14 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Please, someone, address the copyvio issue -- is there a violation? I suspect there is... A copyvio notice may be in order if some explanation is not provided. --Chiacomo 23:05, 16 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Could you provide some specific examples? The linked document is a pretty long read and it would be good to pull out some specific examples of the possible copy violation.  -Ichabod 01:20, 23 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Beginning with the second paragraph of the Student Expectations section "Students must be in the residence halls for room check at midnight Sunday through Thursday." and ending in the next to last paragraph of the same section... "Any student who fails to do so may be subject to the discipline for the offense that occurred in their presence, unless they can satisfactorily explain his/her inability to leave to the student services deans." Basically, 95% of the sections appears to be a cut & paste job from the student handbook listed above. --Chiacomo 01:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)


 * The point is not only a possible copyvio, but whether that much minutiae is needed or is encyclopedic. Similar articles on similar universities lack this, and with reason &mdash; a link to their student handbook is more than an adequate coverage of such issues.  Rlquall 01:34, 23 May 2005 (UTC)


 * I think, perhaps, there is encylopedic merit in mentioning the strict regulations and rules students are subject to while attending Freed, but, (excluding the copyvio) there's definately too much detail here... --Chiacomo 01:39, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

I have removed the above referenced section as a copyright violation. --Chiacomo (talk) 18:47, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Edit war
I don't really care to get into an edit war with Dynamicoverride on whether or not Paul Gray dorm has the best dorm mom on campus. Dynamicoverride has edited this 4 times with this information (see page history). Are there any admins out there who would like to step into this dispute? It is obviously not NPOV. -Ichabod 01:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
 * It's about the silliest thing I ever saw in anything attempting to be encyclopedic and has to qualify as vandalism; I wonder about the motive and question who sees vandalism as a Christian act. Rlquall 01:32, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
 * The vandalism appears to have stopped. --Chiacomo 01:36, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
 * The vandalism is back again. This time it is about Team Ed, a loose confederation of friends. Obviously self-promotion.  Nonencyclopedic. --Ichabod 02:09, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Team ED exsists and deserves the right to be listed as much as the social clubs do! Team ED is not nonsense! -Dynamicoverride

Campbellite?
I disagree with this term being in the article. I think that the Wikipeida article about the term labels it as being regarded as derogatory. I would object to Notre Dame being referred to as a "Beadstringer" University or a "Fishead" University; why is this different? Rlquall 01:37, 23 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Be bold! Though I have heard this term all my life and not always in a pejorative sense... It does appear to accurately describe the roots of the university and its link to the Restoration Movement specifically as described and lived out by Alexander Campbell. Methodists, generally, don't mind being called Wesleyans... --Chiacomo 01:48, 23 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Campbellite has its origins as a derogatory term towards the Stone-Campbell Restoration Movement. As presently redirected in Wikipedia, though, the term refers to the Disciples of Christ.  FHU has not one thing to do with them!  In this instance the term's use is misleading and heavily inappropriate as it places FHU within the wrong stream of the Stone-Campbell Restoration Movement.  Smk 10:28, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I've fixed the Disciples-only redirect; please change the new page if you feel it is imprecise, as I just tried to make it less inaccurate.--Orange Mike 03:27, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Let me say first that I claim no especial insight into the working, history, or organization of the Church of Christ or the origins of Freed and their position in whatever stream of the Stone-Campbell Restoration Movement... Since I really don't know the topic, I'm not going to jump in and edit unless neither of you choose to. You guys go right ahead! --Chiacomo 14:47, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Urban?
Yes, it's downtown, but it's in downtown Henderson. Can that truly be what is meant by "urban" in this sense? NYU is urban, Boston College and Georgetown are urban, and even Lipscomb could perhaps be argubly urban as it is located in a city of over a half million in a metro area of over a million, but Freed cannot be as long as its in a town as small as Henderson. Rlquall 20:54, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Further note - UT Martin, which is almost as close to the downtown of a larger town, is categorized as "rural".

As a graduate of Chester Co. High School whose former home is apparently now the House of Marketing. and University Relations at Freed, I'd say that "urban" is a total misnomer. A student seeking an urban experience there would be most grievously disappointed.--Orange Mike 03:10, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm the one who originally put "urban" as the campus type. I've changed it to rural per the discussion.  --Ichabod 02:29, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

"Phi kappa alpha" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Phi kappa alpha. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 December 16 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Jax MN (talk) 23:30, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Farrow Showers??
I deleted a comment about the showers in Farrow inasmuch as it adds nothing to the description of of the school in general. Further, it could easily be construed to suggest the residents of Farrow enjoy showering with other men. Really not necessary.

JBEvans 16:10, 2 May 2006 (UTC)