Talk:Freedom Conservative Party of Alberta

Name change to separation
I've been poking around a bit to try and clean up this article with hard facts about the party, including its name changes, the late history of the Separation and early history.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:93wlWBwKdAYJ:www.separationalberta.com/lead.asp+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

I really can't seem to find a hard news source (at this time) on why Alberta First decided to changed its name, but the Leaders comments on an old google cached version of the website seem to reveal some detail.

''Many supporters felt we should call our party "The Alberta Party" or "The Alberta First Party" or anything that does not include the word "separation". I convinced the Founding Committee that Albertans had been lied to by politicians long enough and, as a refreshing change, our name should reflect, beyond the shadow of a doubt, who we are and what we stand for.''

To me this indicates that Hutton took over the leadership of Alberta First and changed the name despite objections from the membership.

Is this old cached message from a past leader a reputable source? Þadius (talk) 01:51, 2 September 2013 (UTC)


 * You mean the change from "Alberta First Party" to "Separation Party of Alberta" in 2004? I think it is a good source for a quote, but the actual reasons for the change should come from a more reputable source. Have you found anything for the 2013 name change? 117Avenue (talk) 04:00, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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Under the General elections section, someone made an edit and the bottom yellow colour is not showing. I tried to fix but gave up. Not my edit caused it. User: Kermit7

Undoing bot work
I undid cluebot, because I moved that section to a new page called the Alberta First Party, which can have the detailed registration history. One of the rules of wikipedia is more or less don't fill it with stuff nobody cares about, and decades old political party registration is probably one of those things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xandercain12 (talk • contribs)
 * Let's wait a bit. Let other people with an interest in this page chime in before removing that much material. PaulCHebert (talk) 18:42, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Removing the detailed registration History to a new page
As per user Paul C Hebert, I am outlining the reasons I have considered moving the registration history to a new page entitled "Alberta First Party".

The reason I did this is quite simple. "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information". This page contains lots of the Elections Alberta registration history going back 20 years. It does not include much information on the party currently as it is. For example the Wikipedia page for the Conservative Party of Canada does not include all the legacy of the PC's and Reform parties until much later in the page. It discusses the current iteration of the party first. The Reform Party and Progressive Conservative Party of Canada have their own pages for those that are interested in the history.

Obviously, the Conservative Party will have a more exhaustive page than the Freedom Party, but even if small, the Freedom Parties page should be about the Freedom Party not the historical, defunct, legal shell it took over. Allow an Alberta First Party page to contain all that with references (as there already are) in the Freedom Party Page.

With Alberta's election coming this spring, I suspect most people will be looking for current information, not whom the party president was, under a different party, with a different ideology back in 1999. That may be a supposition, but I fail to see how the corollary could be true. Wikipedia should be useful, not a random collection of obscure information. Xandercain12 (talk) 04:13, 17 February 2019 (UTC)