Talk:Freedom of religion in Pakistan

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For a January 2005 deletion debate over this page see Votes for deletion/Discrimination against non-Muslims in Pakistan

Discrimination pages
I urge all members to be on the lookout for OneGuy who has slapped a VFD on all discrimination articles against Islam. Kindly refute this effort by cross voting on all other discrimination pages


 * 1) Discrimination against non-Muslims in Pakistan
 * 2) Discrimination against non-Muslims in Sudan
 * 3) Islam and Mauritanian law
 * 4) Discrimination against non-Muslims in Iran
 * 5) Discrimination against non-Muslims in Saudi Arabia
 * 6) Discrimination against non-Muslims in Afghanistan
 * 7) Discrimination against non-Muslims in Malaysia

We need your votes so this can remain wikiepedia and not become Meccapedia--Malbear 05:52, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

This is seriously POV. It is certainly valid source material, but it is not encyclopaedic. --Taejo 15:34, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

While I agree with the article please try to find multiple sources.

POV
This really does have a point of vew and all the other ones have POV's. Just because a minority did 9/11 doesn't mean you should put a bad face face on 1.2 billion people.
 * Um, what does 9/11 have to do with this article? Jayjg (talk) 04:17, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 * This is one of the the most massive pieces of POV I've ever seen on Wikipedia. What do you propose we do, Jayjg? K-UNIT 03:26, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

I think so, this has just given a one sided view, as in the law the descrimination of other books is also prohibited, so this is fair for all. As if you look at the blieves of Muslims, it forces them to give respect to all of the holy books especailly, Bible and Torait as well. So i think so report is just concluded one sided view.Therefore, i will request WikiPedia editors that please take this out as this should contain only the undisputed views rather then promoting someone's views only.

Non compliance with Wikipedia policy
I added the template after reading this article, I found to be too one sided and with a lack of citations or sources to support the content. More sources should be included and the balance has to be addressed.

established as an"Islamic republic"
According to everything Ive read and seen,Jinnah established Pakistan as a seclar state.From what I know,Pakistan only became an Islamic republic somehwere in the 50s but Im not 100%. What I do know is that QUid-I-Azam Muhammed ALi Jinnah wanted to gurantee religious freedom through out Pakistan.74.98.241.189 06:17, 24 November 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

The article reflects a strong and politically driven bias in that it discusses a situation that has evolved over the last 50 years without giving historical context - regardless of the factual and logical issues. Your are correct, Nadir, in that it was established as a secular state. This was largely destroyed in the 1980's by the rule of General Zia-ul-Haq, who introduced the Huddood Ordnances, which are described in such editorial detail in this article. I will try to revisit it later and add the historical context. WMHS (talk) 23:53, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Major edit
I've just copyedited this article, removed a lot of tautologies, wikified it, restructured it, added some sources and tried to start addressing the enormous problem of NPOV. I hope this helps. Nadirali above is quite correct in suggesting that Pakistan was established as a secular state and that it only became officially Islamic some years after Jinnah's death. I also agree with the several editors above who point out that the article is very badly sourced and POV. It needs much more work. I have left some unsourced material in for now, though only as a basis from which to start working. -- TinaSparkle 21:47, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

If scholars of Pakistan give a simple and conclusive definition of a muslim, majority of Mullahs will disappear. Can muslim be a dirty thug? Can muslim be corrupt? Majority in Pakistan believe in Islam only because of its fear. Some use it for personal gains. At low level fear of Mullah is more eveident. An elightened government can resolve these conflicts. Let us start with Constitution of Pakistan. It killed its designer. It must change. Let the power be delivered to the people or the word Amighty God be defined in simple way. Mullah believes Almighty God is with them so they want power.

Tagging
It seems like many changes have occurred since this article was "excessively" tagged. This article is well referenced including credible sources such as the CIA Factbook. I am removing the tags. Please details any objections in this talk section. Prester John -(Talk to the Hand) 18:24, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Ahmadis and minorities
Why is it not taking about how other minority groups get persecuted and stalked, murdered and even jailed for their beliefs.

People should know that Pakistan as a country really does not welcome any other way of thinking than that of the country itself. If someone calls themselves Muslim and reads the same Quran, believes in one God and prays the se way, believes in the Holy Prophet SAW being the last law bearing Prophet why is he being persecuted.

Please don't try to hide these facts, add them for others to be clear about. Tellydeewangi (talk) 02:15, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

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Forced conversion
recently mentioned that the topic of forced conversions in Pakistan should be dealt with at this article, and I would agree. If there are no objections, I can go ahead and add some content here.VR talk 17:00, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Sexual freedom
I don't think that Freedom of religion in Pakistan is within the scope of this article, even though Pakistan's conservative laws on sex are influenced by Islam. The article Freedom of religion in the United States doesn't include content on abortion and same-sex marriage even though American laws on both have been shaped by Christianity. Maybe this material belongs at LGBT rights in Pakistan or somewhere else.VR talk 01:49, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Neutrality in edits
There seems to be an (or several) editor(s) making some edits to the section on the Ahmadi position which advocate for a certain perspective as a result of the law. This is far outside my expertise, more I noticed some issues and have tagged it. Hopefully someone who knows more can clarify things a bit. Photonsoup (talk) 15:38, 21 June 2021 (UTC)


 * cab you tell about what sentences you are talking about? ArmorredKnight (talk) 13:44, 25 April 2024 (UTC)