Talk:Freedom of religion in Turkey

Mazlumder ?
Does anyone know this NGO? It appears in the article as Mazlum-Der. Google says it's part of the IHOP, the Human Rights Joint Platform which doesn't exist on wikipedia either. Thank you, Comte0 (talk) 13:58, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I would prefer to call the article to be created Mazlum-Der, even though the organization prefers capital letters in one word MAZLUMDER. The full name of the association is İnsan Hakları ve Mazlumlar İçin Dayanışma Derneği (in Turkish) and their own translation into English says: Organisation of Human Rights and Solidarity for Oppressed People. In other words mazlum=oppressed (person) and der is short for derneği which means association (rather than organization).


 * You can find the introduction in English and the text on who we are (Turkish). Some quotes (for the article?) are:

Despite this lengthy quote the original text is much longer... Sc.helm (talk) 09:47, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Jehovah's Witnesses
I would, just like to briefly state, and point out the possibility of making an update on the situation facing the Jehovah's Witnesses. According to, an Information release, in August 2007, from Jehovah's Witnesses, office of public information, states, "Turkey registers Jehovah’s Witnesses’ association. ISTANBUL, TURKEY—On Tuesday, July 31, 2007, Jehovah’s Witnesses in Turkey received a letter of certification confirming that the “Association for the Support of Jehovah’s Witnesses” has been officially registered. " - http://www.jw-media.org/newsroom/index.htm - Thank-you! --Anaccuratesource (talk) 02:59, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

General criticism
Even though the International Religious Freedom Reports of the US Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor are excellent I do not see much use in having an article almost entirely based on such a report (in this case the one for 2007). It should be possible to find other sources such as a 1987 Amnesty International Report that puts certain issues into historic context, even though it is outdated in respect to the legal background. Sc.helm (talk) 09:47, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Complete rewrite
I've made a (not altogether thorough) revision of this article as a subpage to my user page. I would encourage anyone to look at the page at User:Sc.helm/Freedom of religion in Turkey. To my taste the article can still be shortened. Feel free to edit my draft. If there is no major objection (let's say in a month or so) I would replace my version with the existing article. Sc.helm (talk) 15:14, 16 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the mistake in the formulation above. I did what I suggested on 16 October 2009: I replaced the article with my draft. It became much shorter (half the size) and more sources were included. Improvements should now be made here, instead of the user page I created and shortly shall ask to be deleted. Sc.helm (talk) 16:57, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Building churches?
Does Turkey allow the building of new churches?--Roentgenium111 (talk) 17:24, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

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