Talk:Freeport, New York

Misc. issues
Full disclosure: I'm a Freeport native but no longer live there. I will try to get back to this myself, but thought I'd first make some suggestions and do a critique of the article as it stands.

Possible sources
There is a half-decent historical museum in Freeport (http://www.freeporthistory.org/). Unfortunately, its web site is not great, and its focus is not entirely local (I remember it having things like Civil War memorobilia: the Civil War fighting never got within 200 miles, unless you count the Draft Riots.) But I bet they have a decent monograph or two on the local history. And it wouldn't surprise me if the (excellent) Freeport Memorial Library has valuable materials, too.

I can't follow up on this: I'm on the West Coast. - Jmabel | Talk 17:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I am a life member of the FreeportHistorical society and I'll be happy to clear alot of this bad-and I mean lousy bad!-stuff up for

the site. As it stands now it's biased and insulting for many of the reasons mentioned on this page and I would like to clean it up and present the fair and good picture of my town without all the racial and ethnic nonesense that some predjudiced lowlife turd has put in with safeguards making itough to edit the biased predjudiced crap out.[{User:Freeatlantic/Freeatlantic}]


 * Bill Bleyer, Freeport: Action on the Nautical Mile, Newsday.com has a lot of good material on Freeport history, many facts we should incorporate. - Jmabel | Talk 18:48, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

The Freeport Historical Society had Civil War artifacts because Freeporters fought and died in that War. The dead are listed on a tablet in the Freeport Memorial Library. There is also a monument to the Mott Brothers in the back yard of the Museum. They were two teenagers who died in the war, one in a Confederate prison camp. There was also a very active DBP Mott Post of the GAR. There are also many archival materials on Freeport including monographs, pamphlets, account books, and insurance maps. The Library also has a very extensive Long Island Collection including Freeport materials. Freeport Historical Society (talk) 17:53, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Origin of name
"…the first free port in New York": meaning what? As I understand it, the sense in which it was "free" was that it was a smuggling site. Does someone have citation on this?

The free came from "free from import taxes" that were charged in the ports of New York and Sag Harbor. Since this dates back to the 1850s when the name was changed from Raynortown to Freeport. Freeport Historical Society (talk) 17:56, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, I'm pretty sure that prior to its 1892 incorporation, Freeport was often known as "Raynortown". Does anyone have anything on this? - Jmabel | Talk 17:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

This is correct. User:Freeatlantic

"Faved"
What the heck is a "a faved festival"? - Jmabel | Talk 17:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Ethnic makeup
What can "Despite recent census pollings that tell another story" mean here? The census numbers given below show 32.57% African American, certainly a sizable African American population. And the conflation of African-American population with "many housing projects" seems insulting: most of the African Americans live either in free-standing houses (especially in Northeast Freeport) or in apartment buildings near the center of town. - Jmabel | Talk 17:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm removing the census remark. It's been a week, no one has responded, and it just doesn't make sense. - Jmabel | Talk 05:59, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I think the housing projects remark is indeed biased; to my knowledge there's only one housing project in all of Freeport -- Moxie Rigby (near Merrick road on the east side of town). The previous writer must have just assumed that all of the other numerous apartments in Freeport are housing projects. --MrGears 20:08, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Tone
Some of this seems more suitable for WikiTravel than for Wikipedia.

"[S]egregated by which part of town they are from" seems an unfortunate choice of words, given the racial implication of the word "segregated" in the U.S. - Jmabel | Talk 17:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * This also is incorrect. Bayview/Giblyn/Archer used to be geographically-based. When Freeport Schools added New Visions (in the former Our Holy Redemeer school, before it got its own building) they made all four elementaries into magnet schools specifically to better integrate students of different class and race backgrounds. --MrGears 20:08, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Could I urge you to follow up on these things? I'm pretty swamped, sounds like you know the turf. - Jmabel | Talk 05:40, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. While this Freeporter thanks the author for his or her effort, I note that the article shows bias in areas ... please review for bias, and include only factual content.71.167.2.29 02:50, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Kevin Connelly
Kevin Connelly is a very common name; can someone give some further identifying information than "writer"? I can't work out who this is. - Jmabel | Talk 06:05, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Nothing forthcoming, I'm removing this. - Jmabel | Talk 22:16, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Photos requested
Can someone take photos of: I'm sure there are many other things worth taking, but these leap to mind. - Jmabel | Talk 06:55, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * the remains of the Millburn Power Station
 * the Freeport Historical Museum
 * Woodcleft Canal waterfront
 * One of the canals, preferably shot from a boat
 * Stores on Main St. with Spanish-language signs


 * The boat that was the first outboard to cross the Atlantic. I think it's on display on the Nautical Mile. - Jmabel | Talk 07:04, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Famous?
I removed three supposedly famous Freeporters, for whom I could find no evidence of their fame. Please, if restoring provide citation. - Jmabel | Talk 22:16, 28 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I undid the removal of Kay Gardner, Mitch Kapor, Lou Reed, and Dick Schaap.  Each of whom I feel qualify as notable individuals.  If you disagree, let's chat about it.

Thanks
 * --Igoldste 13:48, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I'd hope it would be needless to say that those were not the ones I removed! - Jmabel | Talk 19:18, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I again restored the various individuals who were deleted (or bogus additions) by unregistered users (such as from 24.46.81.233, 24.185.223.248, and 24.189.251.51)
 * Again, if folks disagree with the addition of these notable individuals, let's please discuss it.
 * Thanks --Igoldste 11:45, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Flashings
I just added some material about Flashings based on a 1999 article. I'm sure there is far more to say. - Jmabel | Talk 19:24, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Casino & pool
Does anyone have much citable about the Freeport Casino and Casino Pool? I know it existed into the 1960s, I took swimming lessons there as a kid. It was pretty scuzzy by that time (circa 1960) but looked like it had once been pretty grand. I've found some citations for its existence as early as 1913, but so far nothing very substantial. Was there ever an actual casino, or was that just a name? And precisely where was it? (I know it was in the southern part of the town but I was young enough to be a bit vague on the details.)


 * Display Ad, New York Times, June 8, 1913, p. X2. "Freeport Casino, Freeport, L.I. RIGHT ON THE WATER; one hour 24 minutes from New York; a week end outing for $10 for two persons; a nice Room, with Board (5 meals) for Saturday and Sunday; bathing, fishing, music and dancing afternoons and evenings."

- Jmabel | Talk 07:01, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Freeport Casino was located on Casino Avenue at the north end of Randall's Bay. The Casino condos are now located there. Freeport Historical Society (talk) 18:10, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Here's a citable newspaper article for Casino Pool:

Froid (talk) 12:19, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Check out the entry in https://libguides.freeportlibrary.info/Encyclopedia/c 172.100.123.111 (talk) 01:59, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Columbian Bronze
Columbian Bronze presumably deserves an article of its own. One thing that should be mentioned is a short-lived February 1942 strike that affected production of naval boats during WWII. Also, there was a serious fire there in February 1947. - Jmabel | Talk 07:28, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Mayor Hardwick
Good photo of Hardwick, if anyone has a use for it: File:Freeport, Long Island, NY, Mayor Andrew Hardwick 2010.jpg. - Jmabel | Talk 19:34, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Apartment buildings
Does anyone have a citable source on what percentage of Freeporters live in apartments (and other multi-unit buildings) vs. how many live in free-standing houses? - Jmabel &#124; Talk 05:53, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Cynthia Krieg
I've just had a chance to meet Cynthia Krieg, who has just written a book about Freeport history. She'll be getting a Wikipedia account and correcting some of what is here; it turns out that we have a bit from unreliable memoirs, etc., where she has now done the research in the primary sources and has published in a book from Arcadia Press (Images of America series). - Jmabel &#124; Talk 19:07, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Cynthia tells me that her efforts at making corrections here have not been generally successful. Given that she herself has written a published history of the village, I would think she knows what she's talking about. From a recent communication: "One of Leo Carrillo houses was on Miller Ave not Long Beach and Roosevelt. We [Freeport Memorial Library] have phone books that have his address. Also Branch Rickey never lived in Freeport but his son did and was active in the Methodist Church." - Jmabel &#124; Talk 02:48, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Thomas Bird
Cut from article:
 * Thomas Bird, 1987-88 Emmy, Ace, and Peabody Awards winner for co-producing, " Dear America: Letters Home From Vietnam," for HBO. Home Box Office. He was also awarded a Drama Desk Award for "Giving voice to the trauma of Vietnam." He is Executive Director of Walking Point Foundation www.walkingpoint.org

The bio of Bird at http://www.walkingpoint.org/leadership/ does not mention Freeport, so that is not a citation for him being a Freeport High School graduate. No doubt that he deserves an article, and once someone writes that (probably as Thomas Bird (actor), with a link on disambiguation page Thomas Bird), a short mention in this article would be appropriate. That mention should include a citation for him attending Freeport High School if he's going to be in that list. - Jmabel &#124; Talk 18:30, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

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