Talk:Freight forwarder

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I doubt any of this information would be challenged by any editor, I don't think it required references! -- Librarianofages 23:16, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

1)What is the difference between NVOCC and freight forwarder? 2)How NVOCC operation can be categorised (Shipping or freight forwarding)? &mdashl;Milinda Sooriyaarachchi himilinda@yahoo.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.247.213.203 (talk) 01:54, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

What a mess!
There really is no need for separate pages on:


 * Freight forwarder


 * International Freight Forwarder


 * Logistics


 * Third-party logistics


 * Non-vessel operating common carrier

These are all the same thing, just different 'buzz words' like the ridiculous '4PL' and even now more ridiculous '5PL'. Freight forwarders have re branded as Logistics providers and now re branding as 3PL. I know of haulage companies calling themselves logistics companies these days! These pages all need to combined, with a section in each explaining the difference, (if there really is much, as it depends on the company rather than the label). The pages and any other names can therefore be redirected to a main article. Any objections, and if so, please, please explain. --Pnb73 (talk) 20:27, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


 * NVOCC have to file a tariff much like a restaurant publishes a menu. The Freight Forwarder is much like the waiter who gets a tip and he does not have to file a tariff. The NVOCC becomes the shipper and is liable for destination charges and ultimate fate of the ocean cargo shipment whereas the Freight Forwarder acts as the agent for the shipper on the Bill of Lading therefore any liabilities at destination fall on the shipper or consignee.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.233.207.43 (talk) 01:46, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Linkspam
Plus every single external link was promoting a company. I've removed them all. This page will bear watching. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:28, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The problem with providing information on the freight industry is that the vast majority who know anything worth knowing about the industry are those actually working in it. And with profit margins so tight, they don't have time to spend on writing about themselves; or at least not without some Return on Investment. As long as the info is just that - information and not promotion i.e. "A freight forwarder is...." rather than "XYZ company is the best freight forwarder..."- I think it should be fine for companies to link to their sites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crofty84 (talk • contribs) 13:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

NVOCC
Non Vessel Operating Container Carrier. Should we add this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.226.9.200 (talk) 02:07, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * perhaps checking the Federal Maritime Commission's website www dot fmc dot gov would be helpful in definitions and answers.12.14.47.2 (talk) 15:59, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

NVO vs FF
A key difference between an NVOCC (frequently referred to as just an NVO) and a Freight Forwarder is their license. You have to have an FF license and/or an NVOCC license. Many companies have both. If a company says they are an NVO they will have an OTI # & Bond.

An NVOCC is considered a carrier, they will issue their own shipping documents. Freight Forwarders will send you someone else's paperwork. To clarify, we are talking ocean freight here. Trucking and air paperwork is different.

"Logistics", like someone already mentioned is an umbrella term and usually refers to either trucking specifically or a combination of services lumped into 1 (ie Trucking to port, container stuffing & then shipping said container would be referred to as a "logistics service"). Some VOCC's (steamship lines) offer logistics services.

I could go on for ever about all of this, but a reliable resource is the FMC website. www.FMC.gov (Federal Maritime Commission). —Preceding unsigned comment added by TLCwJMC (talk • contribs) 17:37, 15 October 2009 (UTC) 7


 * This applies to the US. Not the EC. I work for a freight forwarder and we issue our own sea freight bills and IATA air freight bills. We operate an NVOCC service, like most freight forwarders.

Freight forwarders for individuals
This article only mentions freight forwarders for companies (e.g. Russian shops importing Chinese clothes from Canton), so a reader may get the impression that this kind of companies aren't used by individuals. But there are lots of freight forwarders specialising in receiving goods on behalf of individuals from webshops which refuse to ship internationally. Maybe this kind of freight forwarders could be mentioned somewhere too? Some examples of freight forwarders:  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.247.11.156 (talk) 10:14, 4 December 2010 (UTC)


 * You inspired me to add an about hatnote template to the top of the page. It generates the text: "This article is about freight forwarders. For companies which forward mail and parcels but not cargo, see Commercial mail receiving agency." Thank you.


 * I wonder now: would most freight forwarders be willing to remail small packages to a foreign country (e.g. a USD$20 skateboarding helmet or a USD$200 cellphone)? Or would they decline the job as too small?


 * Cheers, —Unforgettableid (talk) 20:59, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

"Typical day for a freight forwarder"
Although I think this section is cool, it isn't encyclopedic--Test35965 (talk) 21:45, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

I removed the COI tag
I think the offending material was excised long ago. I don't see any COI content - this reads like a normal article now. I also made some other changes to clean it up a bit (see edit notes).Timtempleton (talk) 00:07, 4 April 2014 (UTC)