Talk:Freightquote

Knock off the co-founders edit war
Since March of 2010 user 990011abc has been adamant that Jason Carlson is one of the two founders of FreightQuote. During that same time period Unregistered IP address seem adamant that the one and only founder is Tim Barton. They are not triggering an edit war because they are hand editing, not reverting. Work out your differences here on the talk page. In my opinion the unregistered IPs need to stop reverting edits by 990011abc without cause, comment, or discussion. DavesPlanet (talk) 17:45, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Jason himself seems to indicate on his public profile that he is co founder of FreightQuote - http://www.linkedin.com/in/buildadatabase, the business entry at http://www.alacrastore.com/storecontent/bir/927325 also supports this. There are more entries but these seemed to lend credibility toward keeping both co-founders named. DavesPlanet (talk) 17:56, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Was forced to edit the content back by hand instead of reverting vandalism because 208.47.118.18 was so inept at editing the page that he committed 14 conflicting edits during a half hour period. Learn how to use PREVIEW. I recognize that the FreightQuote.com website cited by 208.47.118.18 describes a single founder. FreightQuote.com can not be considered an impartial source for resolving this conflict, you are going to have to make a compelling statement concerning why Jason Carlson believes and promotes himself as a co-founder, and why he is wrong. DavesPlanet (talk) 13:44, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

User Sdavis423 is continually reverting the co-founders back to a single individual even after your repeated warnings. You warned him on 9 October 2014 and on 10 October 2014 and he did it again on the 15th. Additionally user "Freightquote Corporate" is creating the same edits. Please discuss or stop this disruptive editing. DavesPlanet (talk) 18:24, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Various members (most recenty Theroadislong, Meatsgains and myself) are continuing to revert the unwarranted vandalism of this section by Freightquote Corporate and random IP addresses (most recently 204.185.72.3), and so this petty edit war continues DavesPlanet (talk) 01:05, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Feedback requested on tagging
Hello. This article has been tagged by an unidentified user 2 times now and I'm having a hard time fixing it when they aren't giving me feedback and just adding tags as they please. Can someone help me so that this article fits the wiki world's rules? The article is unbiased, just more of a history and this is what that company does. I have looked at numerous other companies and they are not getting tagged with this-for example - UPS, USPS, DHL, etc. I did this article more as a dictionary entry as wiki stated, not as an advertisement. I don't understand what makes this article an advertisement and every other company out there not? Can a registered wiki editor please advise and help me? Or can the unidentified ip, 71.43.68.185 please join this discussion?

User411 (talk) 15:08, 18 December 2007 (UTC)user411

As author of this entry, I have followed the examples on wikipedia.com for companies such as UPS, DHL, FedEx Freight, etc. when creating this entry. The entry is purely encyclopedic in that it describes the facts of the company, Freightquote.com. I am confused why this has been tagged now as a candidate for speedy deletion, spam page, etc when I used the same outline of several other companies. Please advise how I can amend this article so that it can stay on wikipedia. In addition, this is an unbiased entry that has no opinions, just stated facts. Please advise as I am new to starting an entry.

user411 User411 19:09, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Freightquote RGB 0206.JPG
Image:Freightquote RGB 0206.JPG is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:44, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

No ad
This article clearly doesn't read as an ad, so I deleted the tag. This is factual information. - I kept the other tag because the references should be worked into the text according to Wikipedia guidelines. Also, additional references can be easily found (Google search: Freightquote.com -site:freightquote.com) and used. --Peter Eisenburger (talk) 18:18, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

advertisement
I am not the person who previously tagged this article but this article clearly sounds like an advertisement. It reads like a company brochure. Let's just pull apart the first sentence
 * Freightquote is an online transportation management service that delivers a vast array of freight services for a large and diverse customer base.

Yea, that's market-speak straight out of the advertising department. How about something more unbiased, like
 * Freightquote is an online transportation management service that delivers a variety of freight services. Freightquote is the largest online shipping broker in the nation.

now let's pull apart the second sentence:
 * These services enable customers to instantly quote and compare the shipping rates of hundreds of national and regional freight carriers.

I could do without the word "instantly", otherwise it seems reasonable. The third sentence is more problematic:
 * Freightquote specializes in creating customized freight solutions to meet its customers’ needs, including truckload, LTL, expedited LTL and intermodal freight options.

Nobody reading this knows what most of those words mean. And to suggest they are customized to meet its customers’ needs is just market hype for splicing standard shipping options together. How about something like:
 * Freightquote specializes in creating freight solutions from single pallets to full shipping containers moved by combinations of truck and rail.

starting to see the difference between a marketing brochure and a wikipedia entry? DavesPlanet (talk) 17:37, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Oh, that's just awesome, user "Mean as custard" reverted to a "less promotional version" that was very similar to the changes I have outlined, and two days later user "Freightquote" reverted those edits with no discussion whatsoever on the talk page. This is not acceptable wikipedia behavior. DavesPlanet (talk) 17:46, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Founders
Jason Carlson is edited back in as the co-founder of Freightquote.com, which is true and accurate. Jason Carlson, solely envisioned, and/or created the idea/concept for Freightquote.com. Jason Carlson went to Tim Barton in 1998 to pursue his interest in working together to create a freight brokerage company. At the time, Jason Carlson was employed as the operations manager of DeskTop Shipping (a subsidiary of United Wats, Inc. / Broadwing Communications in which Tim Barton was part owner at the time). Jason Carlson had the idea of utilizing the internet to rate, schedule and invoice LTL freight shipments with multiple trucking companies, which did not exist at the time. Jason Carlson was the sole 'freight expert' and personally designed all the initial screens and methods for the freight rating, scheduling and tracking and was knowledgeable on where to find existing software to incorporate into this new venture and make it work for their needs online. Tim Barton decided to fund Jason Carlson's concept into a new business venture, based on Jason Carlson's personal freight knowledge and expertise, not his own.

During this time, Jason Carlson had to define and explain the term "LTL" to Tim Barton, which is the core business model of Freightquote.com. Tim Barton promised a small percentage of ownership of Freightquote.com, once founded. Jason Carlson was employee number one of Freightquote.com in August of 1998. Jason Carlson, drafted the initial documentation for the Freightquote.com filed patents. Jason Carlson was unceremoniously terminated from Freightquote.com in December 1999 and has never received the promised ownership percentage. Several individuals with firsthand knowledge will confirm Jason Carlson's co-founder claim, including the former CEO of Freightquote.com, Sam Woodward. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 990011abc (talk • contribs) 20:49, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for posting here. We have some core policies here in Wikipedia that the community has put in place over the years to keep this place from becoming a wild west, Mad-max garbage dump.  Please read these links:
 * WP:NOR - no original research.  You cannot just add things to Wikipedia based on your own thoughts or experience. Instead,
 * WP:VERIFY - everything in Wikipedia must be verifiable via a reliable source that is cited.
 * WP:RS - this is the guideline that describes what a "reliable source" is.
 * A lot of that arose because Wikipedia is very committed to allowing editors to be anonymous. So we cannot accept something, that some person writes on a Talk page (as you do above) as "evidence" for anything.  You could be a 15 year old kid making things up, or you could be Jason Carlson, or his wife.  We have no way of knowing, and importantly, we don't care.  What matters are what "reliable sources" say, as discussed above.  (those are just a few of the policies and guidelines, by the way - there are plenty more). So - what reliable sources are there, that tell the story as you have described it? Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 21:04, 6 July 2015 (UTC)