Talk:French Valley Airport

Commuter flights to Orange County or Long Beach?
Are there any regularly scheduled "commuter flights" from French Valley airport to either John Wayne (Orange County) or Long Beach airport?

If not, is such a thing possible? Has anyone ever considered offering this service? Transit sucks here in Murrieta. Maybe this would be a fast way to get people to Orange County and Long Beach. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.100.45.171 (talk) 02:42, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Not that I am aware of. While a good idea, a Wikipedia discussion page is not a good place to ask those questions. Some Wikipedia editors are not too fond of them. Sorry about that. Wingtipvortex (talk) 00:11, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Improving the article
This article definitely needs improving. The French Valley airport is the destination of many aviators and needs a better page. I can provide much information and many pictures to make this article better, but need guidance in doing so. Wingtipvortex (talk) 00:13, 18 January 2011 (UTC)


 * If you list what would you like to do and we can explain how to do it on this page. MilborneOne (talk) 00:23, 23 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, I would like to add a brief history of the airport to start with. It would be nice to bring the article up to start-class. I have a source for the airport's history (http://tasteoftemecula.net/2010/06/french-valley-airport-%E2%80%93-a-history/). I can also drive down there one day and take a few good shots of the terminal and the airport in general. I might even be able to get some aerial photos. A picture of the BD-5J (a similar one to the one in the source for the history) would make a good infobox picture. I would also like for it to be mentioned in the article that one of the surviving F-4 Phantom II is undergoing reconstruction at F70 (this is noted in the F-4 Phantom II article, so the same source could be used), that French Valley Airport is the home of EAA chapter 1279, a fairly notable chapter of the EAA, considering they gave a presentation at Oshkosh Air Venture 2010. There are some other things, but these are the main ones I'd like included. I'm going to need advise on how to upload images and properly license them, as well as how to properly cite the sources. Thanks! Wingtipvortex (talk) 18:56, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * No problem Wingtipvortex, when you are ready to upload the images go to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Upload which is at Wikipedia commons but it is the best place for images you have taken yourself as they can be used on other language wikis. One of the options is It is entirely my own work where you can fill in details and it gives you a choice of licences all of which indicates the image can be used on wikipedia. When the image is uploaded you just use the code MyImage.jpg . Not sure that http://tasteoftemecula.net/2010/06/french-valley-airport-%E2%80%93-a-history/ is a particularly reliable source in wikipedia terms as it appears to be a blog like entry. Dont copy any of the text directly but write the facts in your own words, perhaps need to find other sources for the information as you add text to the article. You allready have an idea how to add text to the article as it is the same as here, when you do others can check the words and show you how to add citations to the sources etc. MilborneOne (talk) 19:40, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you for all the feedback MilborneOne. Please keep it coming. I will try to make it out to the airport this weekend, hopefully get some good shots. I have decided to copy the source of the article over to my sandbox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wingtipvortex/Sandbox) and I am going to work on editing the article there and post it live when it is finished. Feel free to come on by, I still need all the pointers I can get. I agree that the source for the history is not the most reliable source. While I know that it is accurate, I will try to find something more reliable. In the meantime, would adding an 'additional citation needed' tag be permissible? Thanks again. Wingtipvortex (talk) 22:20, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes you can add citation needed tags, just be careful about cutting an pasting from the article it is not normal practice due to the copyright rules to cut and paste whole articles. You can get it working in your sandbox and then copy over the relevant bits. Just ask if you need help. MilborneOne (talk) 23:26, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * OK, sure. No worries there, I've written plenty of papers, and know better than plagiarizing. Lets move the discussion to my sandbox's talk page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wingtipvortex/Sandbox), where you can give me feed back on how the page is doing. Wingtipvortex (talk) 00:19, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Very shamefully I'm still working on improving the article, though I am making progress. I drove by today and took a few pictures. It is taking good shape in my sandbox, though it is still not done. The infobox is done however, so that I have added. It is a little long right now compared to the rest of the article, but it will be fine when I'm done. I've got a mess of references to clean up, that is the biggest thing right now (building a proper and clean reflist), so once I have that done, it won't take me too long to get all of it live. Wingtipvortex (talk) 00:26, 1 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I am no longer able to continue to work in this article, as such, I have copied all my work to Talk:French Valley Airport/draft, where any editor is free to take it from there. Cheers, -- WingtipvorteX  PTT   ∅  14:37, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/2023 Murrieta plane crash
This AfD discussion ended with a "merge" decision. However, I found that the relevant material was already here at the target article. In fact, it is covered in more depth and detail here already. This is a link to the source just before it was converted to a redirect, if someone wants to pull any other content. Joyous! Noise! 05:01, 24 July 2023 (UTC)