Talk:French denier

"French"?
Calling such coin issued under the rule of Charlemagne "French" is an anachronism and historically untenable. There was no such thing as "France" at the time of Charlemagne, his empire being split up into what would later evolve into Germany and France only after his death. If anything, the coin was Frankish, which, despite the superficial similarity, does not mean "French". I'll edit this. SchnitteUK (talk) 10:02, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I get why a German might feel that way but, no, in English, Charlemagne's Francia of the Franks is quite reasonably considered "France".


 * Now, that said, it's still a moronic title. This coin is known as the denier precisely because that's terser than saying "French penny". The page needs to be moved to Denier (coin) or French penny instead of this bizarre amalgam. — Llywelyn II   09:08, 8 February 2016 (UTC)