Talk:French maid

Page should be deleted
This page should be deleted. It makes no sense. I don't know how to do it, however.68.118.61.219 23:47, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * It has to go through Votes for deletion. I must warn you that the possibility of successful deletion of an article like this is very small, however. Everyking 00:05, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * It may be a fairly useless sub-substub, but it's a legitimate topic. Ambi 01:19, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * If it exists: its on wikipedia, period. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.215.167.125 (talk • contribs).

No reason for removal
French Maid is very popular and known by many people. Simply saying that it should be deleted is pretty personal biased. What part of it 'does not make sense'? You have not even specified which part is legible for removal.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=french+maid This is the result of search on "French Maid" on google. See how many results there are. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Your Neighbour (talk • contribs) 21:39, 25 January 2007 (UTC).

French maid clothing in otaku culture?
Maybe someone could sum up the otaku culture's view on the french maid costumes? It's pretty famous and considered as "moe" and/or cute too. There are a number of manga and anime about maids. And don't forget the maid cafés in Akihabara... And references in popular culture: there is a 6-episode japanese series named Maid In Akihabara. --Rev-san 12:33, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

The real French Maid
hm from that description i didn't get what the original french maid looked like can someone find a dress like that?


 * I second this. There surely must be more on the history of the original French Maid and how and why they started being used in Vaudeville / Burlesque performances.  The metamorphosis of the servant uniform to becoming a sexual ‘icon’ if you will. Rifleman jay (talk) 14:54, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

An "otaku's" view on french maid
Hi, I'm a maid otaku and I'm going to talk a little about what I think about French maid.

First of all, I can assure you, the current picture on this article is NOT a french maid. It's just a normal maid cafe uniform with a short skirt. It resembles the traditional Victorian and Edwardian maid uniform more than a French maid uniform. Some of you would accept that but I think it's a bad example. A better example can be found by typing "French maid" into Google image search.

I personally do not like French maid uniform. It may be sexy, but most of the time it's not moe at all. In the otaku culture, maids are usually seen as cute, adorable and moe, not as sexual objects but French maid are usually associated with sexual fetishism. Therefore, I disapprove considering French maid as moe. Some people might not view it the same way I do though.

-FP

Suggestion on expansion
Has anyone tried looking up information on maids in 'Farce'? 62.56.111.179 (talk) 22:59, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm interested in the history of how the "stylized" French maid uniform came to be sexualized. We know that it's an adaptation or modification of actual Victorian-era uniforms, which were about as un-sexual as could be imagined.

Related to the reference to German music-hall costuming, there is another distinctly German phenomenon known as Gardetanz which features group dancing in what are stylized military uniforms, with the inclusion of short skirts, petticoats, and the like. There's precious little on this on the web, other than a variety of YouTube videos. However, it apparently dates back to the late 20s and early 30s.

I've seen late-30s footage of Betty Grable portraying a music-hall dancer in a very similar outfit....

There's also an obvious connection to the long-dead "cigarette girl" uniform popular in classier nightclubs in the 40s. You can see a good example in the country-club scene in Humphry Bogart's The Big Sleep. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bikewer (talk • contribs) 21:18, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

In popular culture
Besides appearances all over the place in anime, I can think of a couple video game uses of French maid outfits. - In The Sims 2, the default (i.e. un-modded) outfit for female NPC maids is a French maid outfit. - Star Oceam 3: Till the End of Time features unlockable maid outfits for a couple of the female characters (Nel most obviously. Fighting in such a short skirt seems impractical.) 216.170.23.235 (talk) 21:40, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

in the media
I had just removed the section. There are many instances in popular culture that had used the french maid outfit. The list would be way too long if it just included every time some instance on tv, cinema, music, etc, used the costume. -Xcuref1endx (talk) 03:26, 11 December 2015 (UTC)