Talk:Fresno, California

Military/US Navy section inaccurate
The section listed both the US Naval Sea Cadets and Navy League Cadets as military units, which they are not. They are a youth orginization, sponsored by the Navy League, but are in no form or fashion a military unit with any deployment possibility or obligation. Further more, the program itself does not condone units being passed off as a military unit. It is a youth group. There may be active duty sailors who volunteer their time, but the unit is not officially recognized by the Navy as an active duty/reserve component. Further more, the Navy does not use the Sea Cadets in any matters of national or international force projection. Please visit the Sea Cadets homepage for more info. http://www.seacadets.org/public/ Spook498 (talk) 01:31, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Tower District section hard to read
The entire Tower District section needs a rewrite, in my opinion. Here are some samples of the poor writing in this section:

"The Tower District became the pre-dominant locale in Central California through 1990 - 1995-6. " •Huh?

"Many businesses experienced problems with at-risk and many youth who were believed to be a contributing factor toward problems with declining business profits during the mid 90's Some businesses within the surrounding areas within the zone of influence felt a high degree of business zoning regulation and control by areema.a/as;q'wkdkaa business committees." •This makes no sense at all.

"These homes stand in stark contrast to the uncontrolled urban sprawl that runs north and east of downtown and attracts a diverse group of residents. Moreover, the Tower District remains one of the few walkable neighborhoods in Fresno." •Again this is hard to understand, plus it makes bold claims that need some documentation.

This section reads more like an insiders play book than an article of fact for an encyclopedia. Anyone want to undertake redoing this section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcheath (talk • contribs) 20:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Regarding walkability, the best reference I can find would be the Planned Land Use Map, which shows that much more of Tower is zoned "neighborhood" than any other part of Fresno, allowing residential or tiny commercial use of property. Due to this, homes and small businesses freely intermix along the avenues. However, this extends only along the Olive strip and small parts of Fulton & Van Ness, unlike most cities with mixed zoning over a larger area, and peters out quickly. Most of the other areas zoned this way are arterial corners, giving rise to the funny Fresno phenomenon of quarter-mile squares of houses with a couple of stores at the corners. I'm unable to find any good reference to the walkability, which is generally the number of businesses within a small area, usually with small storefronts. I would argue that it is only partly walkable, given that total business count is still low and directly off of the main strips are nothing but houses for a half-mile either way; Fresno Civic Center is the only true "walkable" area imho. --Foxyshadis (talk) 03:49, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Raisin Capital of the World?
Doesn't Selma,_California proclaim itself to be Raisin Capital of the World? Is this really a nickname for Fresno too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.175.154.213 (talk) 20:29, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Sun-maid Raisins was once based in Fresno before moving to their current facility near Kingsburg. You can find more info of it here: http://www.sunmaid.com/en/about/our_history.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.58.167.227 (talk) 02:47, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Van Ness Avenue and Boulevard
These are two very different streets. Van Ness Avenue is the downtown "main street" and Van Ness Boulevard is the street with the expensive estates (two streets East of Palm Ave.), eventually curving into Palm Avenue. Neither of these two streets meet. Van Ness Avenue "turns into" Maroa right after McKinley Avenue. Van Ness Boulevard starts at Weldon, right after Fresno High School. (The other side of Weldon, the side in front of Fresno High, is Echo Avenue.) These two streets are separated by two blocks East-West and another two North-South.

Noddegamra (talk) 08:02, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Add to that the extension of Van Ness Blvd which begins on Shaw between Marks and West and heads north through the Fig Garden District. LOL! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.58.167.227 (talk) 03:01, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

neighboorhoods and history
this needs to be completely overhauled. its pathetic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.106.187.212 (talk) 09:43, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. It mentions "Brookhaven", which was not even a neighborhood until just recently, but doesn't mention the older "West Side" neighborhood...it lists "Pinedale" as unincorporated when it is actually inside the city limits of Fresno....if only I knew how to really edit stuff. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.127.122.202 (talk) 11:12, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

the addition of the westside is good. just needs to absorb brookhaven and kearney blvd into that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.229.118.153 (talk) 11:43, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Who decided that the West Side neighborhood went as far north as McKinley Avenue? I've lived here most of my life, the area north of Belmont is never referred to as the West Side or Southwest...it's either Park Side (in reference to Roeding Park) or West-Central Fresno. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.237.90.8 (talk) 10:43, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Im wondering if a North Fresno section should be added, meaning the area of north of nees, woodpark park/lake, riverpark, etc. any thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.128.253.68 (talk) 09:07, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

North Fresno is so large (at least how I see it, anything north of Shields is North Fresno) it should be divided up into smaller sections, such as "New Fig Garden", "Fort Washington", "Highway City" or at least into "Northwest" and "Northeast". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.134.187.102 (talk) 13:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I removed the following phrase from the "Old Fig Garden" section - "Old Fig Garden is considered the ideal neighborhood to live in, especially the houses on Christmas Tree Lane.", since this is very obviously an opinion and doesn't belong in the article. Saberswordsmen1 (talk) 12:35, 27 December 2009 (UTC)


 * found a similar quote under the Van Ness Extension section which reads as follows - "Old Fig Garden is still considered the ideal neighborhood in Fresno, even though Van Ness Extension is more modern and possibly wealthier.". This is clearly more POV.  Who considers it the "ideal neighborhood in Fresno"?  At the very very least, this warrants a citation. Saberswordsmen1 (talk) 12:40, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

There is an error within the links. The link for Fulton Mall connects with Fulton Mall in New York, not an article about Fresno's Fulton Mall. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.137.210.129 (talk) 21:56, 3 May 2010 (UTC)


 * There is another error in the links. The link for Mayfair connects to Mayfair, Kern County, not an article about Fresno's unincorporated county island of Mayfair.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.252.65.65 (talk) 21:42, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Population numbers
I wonder why we have population numbers dated as of January 2009 and source is data from 2007. Is it some vandal change? --Tigga en (talk) 06:38, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Crystal Meth documentary
I'm removing the previous comments, which were just trolling rather than discussing the documentary and where it might belong in the article. I see it's been added and removed from the lead. I tend to agree it doesn't belong there, but I do think the documentary should probably be mentioned, perhaps in the history section? Any agreement/disagreement with that?

I haven't seen it yet, but I plan to watch it this afternoon when I get home, so I'll have more information on the actual content of the documentary then. Sχeptomaniacχαιρετε 20:30, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't see any harm in having a brief mention of the documentary (a couple of lines should suffice). I've seen it and to be fair, it wasn't a hatchet job on the whole of Fresno. I thought it was quite a well made, thought provoking production. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.174.8.253 (talk) 14:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Transportation section
It seems like the citation request regarding the lack of an interstate highway is in the wrong place. It can be deduced fairly easily from any map and population chart that Fresno truly is the largest city in the U.S. that doesn't have an interstate within its metro area. The bit about SR-99 being upgraded to interstate standards seems like it needs some support. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.248.19.13 (talk) 06:04, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Since it bothered me, I went ahead and cited it. Also changed the SR 99 section --Foxyshadis (talk) 03:35, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Politics Section
I'm sorry, but that's just false. If you look at the statement of vote for CITIES, http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/sov/2008_general/ssov/5-pres-by-political-districts.pdf, you'll see that Fresno voted 56.76% for Obama in 2008. It's true that Fresno County just barely voted Democratic in 2008, but many Wikipedians seem to have trouble telling the difference between a county and a city... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.130.193.229 (talk) 16:15, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Then go ahead and edit it and put a link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.181.147.49 (talk) 20:47, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Fresno County Clerk Registrar of Voters http://www.co.fresno.ca.us/DepartmentPage.aspx?id=33241 has reported that the total registered voters in both the city and county show more registered Democrats. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swampgrass Music (talk • contribs) 22:09, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

154 degrees?!
It says in the climate section that highest recorded temperature in Fresno was 154 degrees fahrenheit. Really? The highest recorded temperature anywhere on earth is 136 degrees. This needs to be fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JimmySand9 (talk • contribs) 04:05, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

The reference says the record high in Fresno was 113 degrees. --67.174.241.230 (talk) 07:52, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Structure
Hi. I'm going through all the US Cities (as per List of United States cities by population) in an effort to provide some uniformity in structure. Anyone have an issue with me restructuring this article as per WikiProject Cities/US Guideline. I won't be changing any content, merely the order. Occasionally, I will also move a picture just to clean up spacing issues. I've already gone through the top 20 or so on the above list, if you'd like to see how they turned out. Thoughts? Onel5969 (talk) 16:02, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I am all for that! I think uniformity within a particular category of articles makes the Encyclopedia much more user friendly. John from Idegon (talk) 19:15, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks John from Idegon... will get to it over the course of the next 3 days.

Timeline of Fresno, California
What is missing from the city timeline? Please add relevant content. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 11:10, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Navy League/Naval Sea Cadet Corps.
To whomever is adding the Navy League/US Naval Sea Cadets under the Military:Navy category, you are in error. These are youth programs based on Navy traditions. You are NOT in the military. These are not active military units. These groups are more akin to the Boy Scouts. Spook498 (talk) 05:07, 11 July 2015 (UTC)


 * To Spook498 I see you have no talk page? I would like to reach you. I too noticed these changes and myself thought "but the Civil air patrol is also a federally charted org and it's members are civilians so perhaps that section should not be listed." perhaps we could talk more on your talk page or some other form of coms. I look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely Vlarian559 (talk) 09:11, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

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Name to be transliterated in Armenian.
It is common practice in English Wikipedia to have proper names of cities and regions translated into languages of peoples that have had significant cultural impact or political or linguistic impact on a certain city or region. Fresno was settled by a large amount of Armenians over 100 years ago and the community is still there making a large impression in the city, as well as an historic Armenian District in the downtown of the city with many important government buildings, both city and federal. Due to the huge Armenian cultural impact on this city, and that the Armenian-American history of this city is significant to Armenians as well as to Americans and the City of Fresno, it seems that it would be appropriate to transliterate the cities name into Armenian letters. If examples are needed, I am more then happy to show you a large amount of examples of Wikipedia English articles with proper names translated or transliterated in different languages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geragos (talk • contribs) 08:13, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
 * It seems a bit of a stretch. There are other ethnic groups in this city too, and we don't transliterate the name for those groups. What percentage of the city is Armenian? Almost half the population is Hispanic but we don't transliterate to Spanish. Meters (talk) 08:46, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
 * If the proposal was extended logically, you would also need the Chinese and Japanese language version, and similarly for all cities with a significant immigrant population from a region using a non-Latin alphabet. . . Mean as custard (talk) 09:51, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Similar transliteration edits by this user are under discussion on other pages. It has been suggested that this discussion and the similar discussion from Talk:Altadena, California be combined in Talk:Watertown, Massachusetts. Meters (talk) 20:07, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

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Reliable references needed for events, etc
I note that the lists such as annual events are lacking in reliable reference. Each event listed should have a reliable reference or two (and not just to the sponsor's web site) and perhaps a brief summary. Someone who knows Fresno can perhaps give an idea on which are really notable and chop out the chaff. --Erp (talk) 05:26, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

The table in the demographics section is broken
It includes a lot of content that it shouldn't. There's a lot of text in one of the table cells that should probably follow the table, instead. I took a look at fixing it, but I'm not sure how to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1004:B06B:72A6:65C2:8E3B:2027:C0E4 (talk) 13:53, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Stylistic improvement
The text says, "In 1909, Fresno's first and oldest synagogue, Temple Beth Israel, was founded." Question: if it was the first, it is by definition the oldest and therefore "and oldest" is not needed. This is best: In 1909, Fresno's first synagogue, Temple Beth Israel, still in existence, was foundedS. Valkemirer (talk) 09:19, 9 September 2020 (UTC).

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Pronunciation?
Can we have some guidance as to how to pronounce Fresno? Is it 'Fres-no' or 'Free-no'? Valetude (talk) 00:14, 2 September 2022 (UTC)


 * it's "FREZ-no" RobotGoggles (talk) 11:01, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Fresno City Council
Annalisa Perea is the Council person for District 1

https://www.fresno.gov/citycouncil/ 76.158.189.120 (talk) 16:19, 6 July 2023 (UTC)