Talk:Friends of God

Merge
Maybe this could be merged with German mysticism? Nah, prolly not. But still, they're a bit too close for comfort :P Flammifer 04:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

It's actually also the name of a worship song by Michael Gungor and Israel Houghton. Does this information have a place in Wikipedia? Jonas Wagner, 17:03, 16 March 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.69.176.81 (talk)

Factual Accuracy
All the information in this article is the product of nineteenth century invention. It is what one will find in the Catholic Encyclopedia, published in c. 1910. Mauxb 22:55, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Only the blind have any trust these comments regarding the Friends of "god" & Gospel of John 15:15: "No longer do I call you servants, for the servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all that I have heard from my Father I have made known to you." I do fail to capitalize "god" because it is an outrage to think it "god" needs anything like acknowledgment or praise from such insignificant beings as us sinners!!! god is perfect & needs absolutely nothing nor praise nor acknowledgment! Jesus was not speaking to his slaves the apostles, when he stated John 15:15, but to the ones who had already eaten from his bowl, the elect, of whom Paul talked so much about...like Judas and Mary..... orthodox-christians of any and all colors have always been outside the loop when it comes to understanding and discerning spiritual matters because they are not mature....Did Jesus NOT state when speaking to his apostles:"If I told you earthly things and you fail to comprehend, how can you discern what I am talking about if I tell you heavenly things?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aace55 (talk • contribs) 04:15, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Which psalm?
Psalm 138:17, what is that? Psalm 138 has only 8 verses, and (if it's Vulgate counting) Psalm 139 has a verse 17, but not mentioning Friends of God. Best to link all to the Biblical sources, not only the psalm verse. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:33, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Misleading redirect; erroneous merger
I see two major problems here that need to be addressed:

1) German mysticism is a rather broader phenomenon than the Friends of God, including various other figures and schools such as Hildegard von Bingen, Nicholas of Cusa, Angelus Silesius, Jakob Böhme and his school, and arguably more recent figures. Mysticism in Germany is by no means reducible to a specific 14th century movement. Therefore, there really ought to be a separate page for German mysticism and not a simple redirect to this page.

2) The school of Rhineland mysticism, while considered by scholars to be close to the Friends of God and generally supportive of their movement, cannot be reduced to or equated with it. Meister Eckhart died 11 years before the Friends emerged, so it is anachronistic to cite him in that connection. Tauler and Suso, who did have interactions with that group, were largely considered orthodox Catholic friars. All three of them taught groups other than the Friends of God, such as the Beguines and groups of nuns, and all three were more closely tied to the Dominican Order as well as certain scholastic institutions (e.g. the University of Paris). There definitely needs to be a distinct page for this group of mystical theologians, because their activities are evidently broader than this page acknowledges.

Where was the merger into Friends of God discussed? Is the older page on Rhineland/Dominican mysticism recoverable? I would propose restoring that page and creating a new page on Christian mysticism in Germany that gives a broad overview of the various dimensions of the phenomenon. I am willing to do some of that work myself, but if anyone else is willing to help that would be much appreciated. Spelare108 (talk) 00:45, 20 July 2020 (UTC)