Talk:Frieza/Archive 3

Frieza = Fictional Racists
Ok, I just wanted to say that, if the category of "Fictional Racists" was still available, that Frieza should be listed under it.

I mean, Frieza refers to saiyans as being inferior creatures, he also calls them "Monkeys" at several points (Goku even noted that Frieza was being a racist when he tried to call Goku a Monkey during the final fight when he said "Why must you resort to such names? It only proves how afraid and ignorant you really are!) among others.

If you can't add it in even IF the Fictional racists category is still in existance, i'll understand.

Weedle_McHairybug —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.245.115.214 (talk) 01:54, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree, Freeza was a bit racist to the Saiyans, he treated them like dirt and the Saiyans were basically slaves. Even King Vegeta couldn't stand up to him. Could be percieved as Freeza just hiding under the fact that one day, a Super Saiyan would rise up to him and defeat him once and for all. Raditz was a bit of racist too, calling Piccolo "green freak" or whatever. And Vegeta did call Dende a "Namekian brat". Didn't need the Namekian bit, did it? Could've just called him brat. Son Gohan (talk) 13:00, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Shallow...
There is absolutely no analysis of Freeza's character. It's a great pity. Freeza is a very interesting character (perhaps the only one that made DBZ worth watching) with more than just an evil side to him (there is a speech at a certain point that one of Freeza's soldiers talks about how kind Freeza was to them and how he gave them a job, something to live for, while they were a bunch of useless bums beforehand). Siúnrá (talk) 00:26, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Full Power 70%/ 50%/33%
I can't find the exact place where Freeza states that he is at 50% power (although I know I've heard it and will find it soon), but later on Goku says, before using his 20x kaio-ken "50% power... [gojuu pasento no powaa...] whether those words are a bluff or not, all I can do is stake everything on a 20x kaio-ken!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOpNFwKNu68

Edit: Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLBsVuxSf1E. "Fifty percent of my maximum, that's all that's required for this."

Later on in episode 098, just before Freeza reaches his maximum, he tells Goku that he is at 70% of his maximum possible power. Something like "The extent of my power now is only 70%". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlntLUgGFi4 (About 2:30). Also, he explicitly refers to his 100% state as full power, ("Furu powaa").

I'm not sure about the 33% power one, but before he powers up to fifty, he tells Goku that he was only using one percent of his total power!

PiccoloNamek (talk) 03:43, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Isn't the one percent thing a ub line? I thought he just said he was using a fraction (or maybe it was percentage) of his full power. Onikage725 (talk) 01:26, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

That may very well have been a dub-only line. The others are taken from the Japanese version, though.PiccoloNamek (talk) 10:48, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I think it was after Goku escaped Freeza's energy ball that he trapped him in that he reveals that he was at 33%, but then states he will use 50% of his maximum power. However, I could be wrong, I haven't seen the clip for a long time. Son Gohan (talk) 13:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

The FUNimation dub was 1%/50%/100%, if that's any help. No telling what they messed up in translation. Powerslave (talk|cont.) 07:07, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

is anyone going to fix these problems?
This article or section has multiple issues. Please help improve the article or discuss these issues on the talk page.


 * It needs additional references or sources for verification. Tagged since September 2008.
 * It contains a plot summary that is too long compared to the rest of the article. Tagged since September 2008.
 * The notability of this article's subject is in question. If notability cannot be established, it may be listed for deletion or removed. Tagged since September 2008.
 * It may require general cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. Tagged since September 2008.

how long has it been here? seems like nobody's working on this article anymore...should at least try too clean it up at least —Preceding unsigned comment added by Real ultimate life hulk! (talk • contribs) 21:28, October 29, 2008


 * As noted on the tags, they have been there since September 2008. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 02:42, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

well i just have this weird feeling that there isn't enough things on the internet for DBZ! seems like a baron desert i know dedicated fans might be on the page but i realize there might not be enough...seems too little working on the article& a low number of sources/website links/etc. i like DBZ but i feel a sense of confusion around here lately(HULK (talk) 02:52, 30 October 2008 (UTC))

It contains a plot summary that is too long compared to the rest of the article. Tagged since September 2008. i think we should start here...seems like the easiest task right now can we fix it? any ideas? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Real ultimate life hulk! (talk • contribs)


 * Thought I shortened that thing long ago. What section(s) exactly are too long? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 03:47, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


 * It is much less, but its also still the bulk of the article. It has no creation/conception info and no reception info to flesh out the article enough to make it less dominating. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 03:51, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I think we should just merge this page. Like you said, there's nothing really of significance here. Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 04:01, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The merge discussion closed with keep, but as it has not been improved and it has been a month, suggesting a merge again would be appropriate. Personally, I would say yes, it should be merged as there is still no visible notability and nothing has changed. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 04:15, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

well it can't be a wasteland forever...as the information states that if we don't have any new notability..you know! what gets me is the fact this wiki is using another wiki —Preceding unsigned comment added by Real ultimate life hulk! (talk • contribs) 23:51, October 29, 2008
 * How so? There was a wikia link in the ELs (now removed), but nothing as far as I can see is sourced to any other wiki. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 05:23, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

It needs additional references or sources for verification. Tagged since September 2008.

any ideas? could we search the Net for more?(9000! (talk) 03:30, 11 December 2008 (UTC))

Abilities
Seriously? That applies to the vast majority of the cast. It needs to be reworked into the article somewhere else and then expanded. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.200.240.95 (talk • contribs)


 * I agree that the first sentence does seem short, albeit I have no idea where it can be moved to. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 20:44, 23 February 2009 (UTC)