Talk:Frithiof's Saga

This article should use English names (with original names in parans)... - 24.44.37.202


 * It's not that simple and we've given this a lot of thought, see Naming conventions (Old Norse/Old Icelandic/Old English) - Haukurth 09:47, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Yes, but this may be a case where the paragraph "a familiar English form" can be applied. I had trouble writing this article because of that. I am thinking particularly of Halfdan/Hálfdan, Ring/Hringr and Ingeborg/Ingibjörg.--Wiglaf 09:54, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * In List of encyclopedia topics (27), he is listed as Frithjof. This is probably due to Esaias Tegnér, and this means that there is a standard form in English. I'll change the form in accordance with the policy.--Wiglaf 19:13, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Surely there must be a more English name than Friðþjófs saga ins frœkna.


 * This article links to a swedish article about the epic poem Friþjófssaga which is different from the old story. --Salvor (talk) 09:42, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * This article is very misinformed. The fame of Frithjof is due to a romanticist interpretation by Tegnér which has little in common with this Icelandic poem. --User:Ronnlund —Preceding undated comment added 23:26, 9 November 2013 (UTC)


 * What about "The tale of Frithiof"? Because that's what it means. Now I'm not a native english speaker, so please correct me if you have other thoughts. 78.72.27.253 (talk) 20:56, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Svíþjóð is Ringerike or Sweden?
From chapter 2 of Friðþjófs saga ins frækna (http://www.heimskringla.no/wiki/Fri%C3%B0%C3%BEj%C3%B3fs_saga_ins_fr%C3%A6kna)

"Hringr hét konungr, er réð fyrir Svíþjóð."

Which translated is: "Hringr (or Ring) was the name of the king, who ruled Sweden. http://books.google.com/books?id=3WcAAAAAcAAJ&dq=Fri%C3%B0%C3%BEj%C3%B3fs&hl=sv&pg=PA490#v=onepage&q=Fri%C3%B0%C3%BEj%C3%B3fs&f=false (Page 490) C.C. Rafn Who made the first translation in which Svíþjóð became Ringerike?

Björner's "Nordiska kämpa dater" (1737) - http://books.google.com/books?id=9nZUAAAAYAAJ&dq=nordiska%20k%C3%A4mpadater&hl=sv&pg=RA2-PA6#v=onepage&q&f=false - this may be the origin of the "error" - Björner may have used false etymology to connect Hring with Ringerike.

Note that "Fornaldar Sögur Nordelanda eptir gömlum Handritum Volym 2" - page 4980by CC Rafn says "Svíþjóð" but the translation by the same author (Rafn) to danish repeats Björnars translation, see http://books.google.com/books?id=O2gAAAAAcAAJ&dq=inauthor%3ARafn&hl=sv&pg=PA78#v=onepage&q&f=false  - maybe it can be traced to Thormodus Torfæus Gitangurang (talk) 00:09, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Ringerike is probably named after another king Hring in Hversu_Noregr_byggdist "Hringr konungr, sonr Rauma, átti Hringaríki ok Valdres. Hann fekk dóttur Vífils sækonungs. Þeira sonr var Hálfdan gamli" - Another king Hring is from "Egils saga einhenda ok Ásmundar berserkjabana" where he is from Östfold and marries to the king of Gautland's daughter called Ingibjargar and seems to inherit the throne there.

Additional support for Hring being a swedish (petty?) king is found here: "Hringr hét konungr. Hann var fylkiskonungr í Svíaveldi" see http://books.google.com/books?id=85QrAAAAMAAJ&dq=%C3%9Eorsteins%20saga%20%20rafn&hl=sv&pg=PA385#v=onepage&q&f=false

Here a king Hring from East Geatland: Fornaldarsagaerne: myter og virkelighed

Gitangurang (talk) 01:08, 1 April 2011 (UTC)