Talk:From my cold, dead hands

Possible link
I wonder if that should be mentioned:  http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/08/Apr/heston.html --88.117.84.219 (talk) 23:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


 * There would be problems with this one on a couple of levels. First, the site is not a reliable source as it is self-published. Second, it's not a notable joke that has been covered by multiple independent, reliable sources. B.Wind (talk) 04:05, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Title
The current title of this page is pretty long and difficult to remember correctly. It might be better if it were simply located at Cold dead hands (or Cold dead hands speech, or something similar) - it's not really necessary to quote Heston's exact words in the title. Terraxos (talk) 03:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, it's not Heston's. He simply restated it - it's a slogan popularized by the NRA for over three dozen years. Redirects are in place for abridgments. It's best to keep it where it is (the more historical slogan/bumper sticker adage) and let the redirects do their job. "Dead hands speech" would be an inappropriate name for this and even for Heston's 2000 use (and subsequent restatements in the later NRA conventions and his 2003 retirement speech). B.Wind (talk) 04:02, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Reverse the redirect
It seems to me that this ("From My Cold Dead Hands") should be the title of the main article about the popular American saying about firearms and not the cumbersome, longer title ("I'll give you my gun when you take it from my cold dead hands").

The redirect should be reversed.

72.82.206.25 (talk) 08:27, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


 * ✅ The subordinate clause "from my cold, dead hands" exists in most variants of this phrase and is the logical title for this article. &mdash; Hex    (❝ ?!  ❞)   12:00, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Strange, in retrospect
Why wasn't this an article before I created Cold Dead Hands a year ago as a redirect to Heston in memory of his passing? I wonder what else Wiki is missing along the same lines? 70.162.59.107 (talk) 19:17, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The important thing is that it is one now. B.Wind (talk) 23:40, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Wanted - drool-proof copy editor
Look for someone who understands about grammar and spelling. Ask them whether they have way too much time on their hands. If they have, please get them to glance at the article and fix the more obvious problems. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.164.175.51 (talk) 06:45, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

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First quote not by Heston
Most of the quote ("For the next six months ... on Election Day") is NOT from Charlton Heston, but from speaker James Jay Baker: https://www.nraila.org/articles/20000601/for-the-record-speech-by-james-jay-baker-at-the-2000-nra-convention-2000-06-01 --Alferd E. Newman (talk) 18:17, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅, I haved changed the quote by the last part of the transcription that appears in the YouTube video of Heston's speech. Alexcalamaro (talk) 12:10, 20 November 2022 (UTC)