Talk:Frome/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: WTF? (talk) 22:35, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

This article is very well written. It's quite easy to read and the photos are very good (editors might consider nominating some of them for featured picture?). I think it's mostly meeting the six good article criteria, though there are a few issues that remain. See below:


 * GA review (see here for criteria)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): b (MoS):
 * A few minor copyedits and corrections, but mostly the prose is good. It also meets the guidelines in the manual of style as well as WP:UKCITIES. The sports section consists of three subsections, but does not have an introduction. Some introductory text would be good to add to connect the different sports. It might also be nice to rename this section as 'sports and recreation', and maybe have some information on parks and other recreational activities available to residents.
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):
 * Mostly well-cited, and the sources appear to be reliable, though there are quite a few citations that link to the primary website of a specific organization or entity, as opposed to a more specific citation (e.g. a book, or a specific journal or newspaper article). Not as big of a deal at GA, but could be an issue when moving up to FA. The second paragraph of 'demography' has quite a few figures in it, and is completely uncited. There's also only one citation in the sports section, and the content about the rugby club appears that it might be WP:OR -- some citations would help this section.
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * The article includes all of the major sections and information that you would expect it to have. There's some notable missing information, though. For one, the history section doesn't really have anything from the 20th/21st centuries, and kind of leaves you at the turn of the 19th century. The geography section should also have some information about climate as well. At the end of the 'religious sites' section, the sentence "Finally, there is a Dissenters' Cemetery with Chapel at Vallis." also kind of leaves you hanging. It might be nice to elaborate more on the Dissenters' Cemetery and how it connects to the town. In the education section, it states that there are no higher education establishments; but in the culture section, it refers to the Merlin Theatre on the Community College campus. That seems to indicate that there are higher education establishments in the town?
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * Meets WP:NPOV requirements.
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * The article does not show evidence of WP:3RR violations or edit-warring.
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * Images are all tagged and captioned appropriately. As a matter of fact, many are of very high quality.
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail: I think that the article is quite close to meeting the good article criteria. I will leave this on hold until 2/27/2010 so that the issues may be addressed. Cheers! WTF? (talk) 22:35, 13 February 2010 (UTC)}}

Response Thank you for your review comments (and edits). I believe the issues identified have been addressed, except the comment about Higher Education - Frome Community College is a Comprehensive school providing education for 13-19 year olds, but Higher education is generally referred to in the UK as university education leading to degrees etc for those over 18. I have added a bit about the 20th century in history but much of this is covered in economy & other sections so would be duplication to repeat in history. I have referenced the demography figures & added climate to geography, as well as expanding and referencing the sport & leisure section & explaining the dissenters chapel. If there is anything else you feel is needed please say.&mdash; Rod talk 10:55, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Wow! Quite a speedy improvement! The sports and recreation section is much, much better! I think the article now meets GA criteria and can be listed. I am still a bit concerned that some of the references, primarily to sports teams and cultural sites and venues, are simply linking to the primary website (index page), as opposed to a more specific page or citation. I think it's sufficient for GA, but I suspect you could have a problem with this at FA.

Anyway, nice work! Cheers! WTF? (talk) 18:43, 14 February 2010 (UTC)