Talk:Frontal lobe disorder/Archive 1

Untitled
I started this as a stub (it was a redirect to psychopathy!), and I have writtens some general content on fronal lobe functions and clinical assessment. I intend to write more on frontal lobe impairment in psychiatric disorders, but it would be good if a neurologist could write something on the degenerative / cerebrovascular / traumatic aspects. --Anonymaus (talk) 03:38, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

ICD, syndrome
Is there an IbD code for this disorder? Is it synonymous with the "frontal lobe syndrome"? -- C opper K ettle  16:18, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, there is. I think it's 310.0.  Chocolate Panic! (talk) 17:39, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * That would be the DSM code: "310.1 Personality change due to... [indicate the general medical condition] (Subtypes: Labile, Disinhibited, Aggressive, Apathetic, Paranoid, Other, Combined, Unspecified)". In ICD it could be "(F07.) Personality and behavioural disorders due to brain disease, damage and dysfunction".


 * But I think we can distinguish "frontal lobe disorder" which includes anything that can go wrong with the frontal lobe (from the subtle changes in schizophrenia through to a massive traumatic injury to the frontal llobe) from "frontal lobe syndrome" which is more specifically a set of abnormalities which are referred to in this article as "dysexecutive syndroome". This might need clarificaton in the article. I'm wondering whether a disease infobox is appropriate here.


 * Anonymaus (talk) 06:31, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

I was wondering if frontal lobe disorders can be classified according to the common presentations in different diseases. For example, dysexecutive symptoms seen in the context of ADHD or Asperger Syndrome are quite different from Pick's Disease. In this context the term 'Disexecutive Syndrome' can also be confusing and probably a new page on Dysexecutive syndrome is required/ ---">User:Gobechara 10/11/09

Psychiatric medications
Moving here some content badly sourced and with POV issues. While it might have some value if higher quality secondary sources are found it cannot be reincluded in the article as it is:

Psychiatric medication
It has been proved that psychiatric drugs cause damage to pre frontal cortex.--Garrondo (talk) 21:02, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

''Inumerable medical studies have shown, in the past 20 years, that use of neuroleptic psychiatric drugs (or antipsychotics) is linked with structural brain changes, especially when taking high dosages for a long time. These brain changes might include actual atrophy of the higher level parts of the brain (pre frontal cortex). The atrophy can be seen in MRI scans and autopsy studies. A study showed that neuroleptics lead to analogous brain changes in monkeys .''

Changes
I have made several changes that have been reverted without explanation. Policies for my changes are below. If any editor disagrees I hope he/she provides reason for inclusion of the content with appropiate policies or reasons until consensus is reached. --Garrondo (talk) 16:12, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

On causes

 * I have not deleted causes only subheadings. Per WP:MOSHEAD and MOS:PARAGRAPHS does not make sense to have subheadings for only a line of content and titles should not be reduntant with higher titles
 * I have deleted psychiatric medication due to its POV tone and its poor referencing (see above)

--Garrondo (talk) 16:04, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Other

 * I have reordered the article following recommended headings by WP:MEDMOS.
 * I have deleted some content on Gage since it was too much specific for an article that spoke about frontal lobe function (See WP:FORK)
 * I have deleted some external links since they did not fullfill inclusion per WP:ELNO

--Garrondo (talk) 16:04, 9 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Note: the other editor involved here has been massively disruptive at several related articles, and is now indef-blocked. Looie496 (talk) 16:18, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

New section
I want to get other editor's opinions of this. I want to create a new section that list disorders that are associated with a frontal lobe disorder such as ADHD and stuttering. Robert4565 (talk) 00:37, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I support.  D ip ta ns hu Talk 18:46, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I have taken it a bit further. You can do the rest.  D ip ta ns hu Talk 19:29, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

note
How long do people with this live. I've had it since childhood. I'm 18. Should I be dead? I kept searching but the search engine only showed frontotemporal dementia. They're not the same, right? I'm not nagito komaeda I'm just a kinnie.

Looking forward to ur wise answers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.248.154.193 (talk) 17:21, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * should you wish to add to the medical literature of this article (or other) please do (you may want to create an account https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CreateAccount) thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 17:57, 24 November 2023 (UTC)