Talk:Frontex

Re Copy Paste
See http://www.mswia.gov.pl/portal.php?serwis=en&dzial=23&id=223 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.35.212.138 (talk) 11:17, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Economy
Is it possible to add something abouth the economy of frontex? seems like the article is locked. the budget is here: http://www.frontex.europa.eu/budget_and_finance/

Grand total Draft Budget 2011 is 86 384 000euro —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.34.54.115 (talk) 21:50, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Participating countries
Non-EU-Schengen-countries are also part of Frontex, ie. the map covering EU-countries is not correct excluding Norway, Island and Switzerland (see instead the offical frontex web-page). Alenepaagata (talk) 10:22, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Logo Change request
I have a stated conflict of interest (see user page) and have many changes I would like to make to this entry, however do not wish to make direct changes myself, in line with your guidelines. My first request would be to update the logo as it was changed in March 2012 (available here: http://www.frontex.europa.eu ) or I can provide a high-resolution vector image on request. I look forward to working constructively with Wikipedia to create an accurate and objective entry. Ewanjones (talk) 16:56, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I have updated the logo, please check that it is correct. Since this is a copyrighted image we do not want a high-resolution image, but rather the lowest resolution image that can display acceptably. DES (talk) 01:02, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

logo
Hi, is it possible to change the logo. I work for Frontex and was advised to make make all edits provisionally on the Talk page. Ewanjones (talk) 10:42, 9 August 2012 (UTC) Ewanjones (talk) 12:07, 29 August 2013 (UTC) Ewanjones (talk) 10:42, 9 August 2012 (UTC) /Users/ewanjones/Desktop/Frontex_horizontal_colour_01 [RGB].svg
 * Done, see above. DES (talk) 01:03, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

further (extensive) changes
Please find my suggestions below. I hope it's not too much.

Frontex is a specialised and independent body tasked to coordinate the operational cooperation between EU Member States in the field of border security. Source: Council Regulation (EC) No 2007/2004 Frontex was created in 2004 with the aim to coordinate and assist member states' action in the surveillance and control of the external borders of the EU. The agency officially became operational on 3 October 2005 and is based in Warsaw, Poland. In May 2010, Frontex established a first regional operational office in Piraeus, Greece, on a pilot basis. There are approximately 300 people working for the agency. Since Frontex became operational, its financial resources have increased significantly (from € 6 millon in 2005 to € 86 million in 2011). In September 2011, the European Parliament also adopted Amending Budget No 4/2011 which added another € 43.9 million to Frontex's 2011 budget due to a substantial increase in the agency's operational activities related to an influx of migrants travelling by sea in the Mediterranean during the so-called “Arab Spring”. http://consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cms_data/docs/pressdata/en/jha/124999.pdf The activities of Frontex are intelligence driven. Frontex complements and provides added value to the national border management systems of the Member States and other members of the Schengen free-travel area (Schengen-Associated Countries/SACs). The Agency shall perform the following tasks: (a) coordinate operational cooperation between Member States in the field of management of external borders; (b) assist Member States on training of national border guards, including the establishment of common training standards; (c) carry out risk analyses, including the assessment of the capacity of Member States to face threats and pressures at the external borders; (d) participate in the development of research relevant for the control and surveillance of external borders; (da) assist Member States in circumstances requiring increased technical and operational assistance at the external borders, taking into account that some situations may involve humanitarian emergencies and rescue at sea; (e) assist Member States in circumstances requiring increased technical and operational assistance at the external borders, especially those Member States facing specific and disproportionate pressures; (ea) set up European Border Guard Teams that are to be deployed during joint operations, pilot projects and rapid interventions; (f) provide Member States with the necessary support, including, upon request, coordination or organisation of joint return operations; (g) deploy border guards from the European Border Guard Teams to Member States in joint operations, pilot projects or in rapid interventions in accordance with Regulation (EC) No 863/2007; (h) develop and operate, in accordance with Regulation (EC) No 45/2001, information systems that enable swift and reliable exchanges of information regarding emerging risks at the external borders, including the Information and Coordination Network established by Decision 2005/267/EC; (i) provide the necessary assistance to the development and operation of a European border surveillance system and, as appropriate, to the development of a common information sharing environment, including interoperability of systems. http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CONSLEG:2004R2007:20111212:EN:PDF

Ammendment to Frontex Regulation In September 2011, Frontex's founding legal mandate was ammended. Under the “new regulation” Frontex will have more equipment and personnel from Member States at its disposal, thus enabling it to better coordinate the border patrol operations of EU Member States. Thanks to these new powers, Frontex will deploy European Border Guard Teams. These teams will consist of national border guards assigned or seconded by Member States. More technical resources will be at the agency's disposal, and it will have the ability to acquire or lease its own technical equipment such as vessels or helicopters for border surveillance. Frontex will also be able to strengthen its cooperation with third countries and will have the possibility to provide them with technical assistance. The respect of fundamental rights and obligations under various international law instruments received specific attention in the amended mandate. A Fundamental Rights Officer will, for instance, assist in matters having implications for fundamental rights and a Consultative Forum on Fundamental Rights has been created also involving relevant international organisations and NGOs. EU governments called on the Commission to propose improvements to Frontex, as part of the Stockholm Programme, at the European Council of 10-11 December 2009 (see MEMO/08/84). This call was reiterated by the conclusions of the European Council in June 2011 (IP/11/781).

To heed this call, the revision of the Frontex regulation sought to clarify the mandate and enhance the role of Frontex by:

Ensuring the availability of technical equipment for joint operations Ensuring the availability of qualified border guards for joint operations Ensuring efficient coordination, implementation and evaluation of joint operations Ensuring efficient cooperation between Frontex and third countries on border management Improving the efficiency of joint return operations Improving the evaluation of the performance of Member States in the area of border management.

(http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAction.do?reference=IP/11/1020)

On 10 October 2011, the Council adopted the new rules for Frontex. (PE-CONS 37/11). The revised rules strengthen the operational capacities of Frontex in a number of areas. The main changes are: –   the possibility for Frontex to buy or lease its own equipment (cars, vessels, helicopters etc.) or to buy such equipment in co-ownership with a member state; –   a mechanism for member states to second national border guards and make available equipment to the agency, i.e.: once the agency and a member state agree on an annual plan, this member state should on request by Frontex make the border guards and the equipment available to Frontex as described in the annual plan, unless this would seriously affect the discharge of national tasks; the equipment put at the disposal of the agency will be registered in a centralised records of a Technical Equipment Pool (TEP); –   a co-leading role for the agency regarding joint operations and pilot projects; –   "European Border Guard Teams" as the common name for teams deployed during Frontex operations (be it joint operations, pilot projects or rapid border interventions); –   more detailed provisions on the operational plan (the respective tasks and responsibilities, the composition of the teams, command and control, the reporting mechanisms, i.e. evaluation and incident reporting, technical equipment, and the applicable jurisdiction.); –   strengthened provisions for the protection of fundamental rights, including the establishment of a Consultative Forum on Fundamental Rights and the designation of a Fundamental Rights Officer; –   reinforced tasks for the agency as regards risk analysis (i.e. to regularly assess the capacity of member states to face upcoming challenges at the external borders); –   specific provisions on processing of personal data, including the possibility to transfer personal data to Europol or other EU law enforcement agencies regarding persons suspected of involvement in cross-border crime; –   reinforced tasks as regards training (common core curricula for national border guards) and research activities (monitoring and contributing to developments in relevant research activities); –   a strengthened coordinating role for Frontex as regards joint return operations in full respect for fundamental rights; and –   the possibility for the agency to launch technical assistance projects and deploy liaison officers in third countries. Citation: http://consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cms_data/docs/pressdata/en/jha/124999.pdf

Ewanjones (talk) 15:48, 3 September 2012 (UTC)


 * The above is very long -- as it stands I think it has too much detail for this article -- of course that is only my view. The suggested edit could be more specific -- it would be helpful to have a draft in the form of wikipedia-style prose, with footnotes in place, that could be dropped into the article. But a bigger problem than that, the links given, which seem to be the sources for this suggested edit, are all primary sources. As our Identifying reliable sources guidele says: "Articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. This means that we only publish the opinions of reliable authors, and not the opinions of Wikipedians who have read and interpreted primary source material for themselves." Putting together information from these sources, particularly from the official regulations, would probably constitute original research, in my view. We really need a secondary source, such as a journalist, who has written and published about these developments. If such a source can be cited, things will be much easier. DES (talk) 16:21, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for your input. I'll look into it and see what I can find. Ewan

195.198.60.198 (talk) 20:46, 6 September 2012 (UTC) Ewanjones (talk) 12:00, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

I would like to present the following for consideration for the beginning of the Frontex entry:

Frontex is the EU's border control agency. It was created in 2004 with the aim of coordinating and assisting EU member states in the surveillance and control of the EU external borders. The agency became operational in October 2005 and is based in Warsaw, Poland. Frontex’s tasks, as set out in its founding regulation (Council Regulation (EC) 2007/2004) are to: 1) Coordinate operational cooperation between Member States in the field of management of external borders 2) Assist Member States on training of national border guards, including the establishment of common training standards 3) Carry out risk analyses, including the assessment of the capacity of Member States to face threats and pressures at the external borders 4) Participate in the development of research relevant for the control and surveillance of external borders 5) Assist Member States in circumstances requiring increased technical and operational assistance at the external borders, taking into account that some situations may involve humanitarian emergencies and rescue at sea 6) Assist Member States in circumstances requiring increased technical and operational assistance at the external borders, especially those Member States facing specific and disproportionate pressures 7) Set up European Border Guard Teams that are to be deployed during joint operations, pilot projects and rapid interventions 8) Provide Member States with the necessary support, including, upon request, coordination or organisation of joint return operations 9) Deploy border guards from the European Border Guard Teams to Member States in joint operations, pilot projects or in rapid interventions in accordance with Regulation (EC) No 863/2007 10) Develop and operate, in accordance with Regulation (EC) No 45/2001, information systems that enable swift and reliable exchanges of information regarding emerging risks at the external borders 11) Provide the necessary assistance to the development and operation of a European border surveillance system and, as appropriate, to the development of a common information sharing environment, including interoperability of systems. Ewanjones (talk) 15:15, 29 August 2013 (UTC) Ewanjones (talk) 12:00, 13 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Ewan, I don't know why this sat in the queue for two months. I'm going to decline it for now.  If you're still interested in pursuing this, please ping me here or on my talk page.  Thanks.  Garamond Lethe t c  07:23, 12 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Garamond. It's frustrating that it sat in the queue for so long but never mind. Why did you decline it? I've been trying for some time to correct the entry, which is inaccurate and out of date. Although I have a declared 'conflict of interest' I don't see any conflict - Frontex's interest is the same as Wikipedia's: to have an accurate and up-to-date entry (including criticisms). Please contact me to discuss the best way to move forward with this. Thanks. Ewan. 91.212.30.30 (talk) 11:37, 17 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Hello, 91. I declined this because of writing style issues that I would have been unable to address without the help of an expert.  Since you're here, let's see what we can do.  The lead section should be a summary of the rest of the article (see WP:LEAD).  As such, the list should be summarized in a couple of sentences, and the list itself should be in a separate section.  Citing a pdf at "refworld" is supoptimal; if this is an official UNHCR document then we can give it a proper citation to a UNHCR publication.  Moving the citations in that document into this page would be helpful as well.  I'll take a stab at this later today.  Thanks for pinging my talk page&mdash;I appreciate it.  Garamond Lethe t c  16:59, 15 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I've read up a bit on frontex and the article can certainly stand some improvement. I'm curious, though, how much time you have to devote to this effort.  If this is just a question of updating a few facts, tell me what those are and we'll leave it at that.  If you'd like to make this a more substantial article, I have a few suggestions as to what you can do towards that end.  Garamond Lethe t c  01:03, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

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Good source http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/dec/11/brussels-plans-to-strip-schengen-nations-of-authority-over-borders-europe Legacypac (talk) 09:23, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

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"previously called frontex"
I dont know who, why and on what basis added that te EBCG was renamed from Frontex, rather than it having a dual name; but that is obviously false, as can clearly seen by their official site: http://frontex.europa.eu/ and the fact that the rest of the article clearly uses frontex instead of EBCG.

Kind regards - not logged in because i forgot, but I changed it back — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.147.114.159 (talk) 20:29, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

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Equipment list
Seeing as how Frontex has started gaining their own equipment in the last years and the probability that this will increase a lot more in the future I added a section listing the equipment. But I do not know what all to add on there, should things like ships leased be added? What about ships used by Frontex but still possessed by foreign coast guards? For sure the Heron 1 and the Land rover Discoveries should be added, but the Diamonds and the Beechcraft could also fall under leased and as such not owned by Frontex. Let me know what you think.

Requested move 22 September 2021

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The result of the move request was: moved. per WP:SNOW. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 (talk) 09:26, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

European Border and Coast Guard Agency → Frontex – Clearly the common and recognizable name. You can compare the Google News results from the last month. It also suits WP:CONCISE. (t · c)  buidhe  09:05, 22 September 2021 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * support per nom, kinda surprised Frontex isn't the article title to be honest—blindlynx (talk) 19:40, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Support, the French long ago browbeat even the Agency itself into using Frontex as the common name in English. Talk about childish though... Is there a government more childish than France’s? Maybe North Korea's? Gaddafi when he was alive but its a lost art these days. Get pissed at the Brits, not their language. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 19:43, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Support, The agency is known as Frontex. It is not only used in informal discussion but the term is also commonly used in formal contexts. James Tamim (talk) 06:02, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Support News release from European Parliament use Frontex in title. Example : https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20201127IPR92637/respect-of-fundamental-rights-in-frontex-operations-meps-demand-guarantees Reneza (talk) 06:56, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Leggeri resignation already effective?
Unless I'm missing something, "who was Director of the European Border and Coast Guard Agency (Frontex) from 2015 to 2022" in Fabrice Leggeri's entry would mean his resignation is already effective and the ED position should be marked vacant. The Crab Who Played With The Sea (talk) 13:40, 1 May 2022 (UTC)