Talk:Fruit wine

The term "country wine"
I'm very dubious about the use of "country wine" as a term for all "non-grape" wines.

A.) I've never heard it, and I've been drinking wine for 45 years. B.) The Merriam-Websters New International Dictionary, Unabridged, 2nd Edition, with 600,000 entries, does not even list it as a footnote. C.) The Compact Edition of the Oxford English Dictionary (small print, but still the complete dictionary) does not list it. D.) The 700-page "Food Lover's Companion", a recent, very useful encyl. about food and wine does not list it. E.) I can't find anything in a Google search that jibes with this definition. F.) Today's New York Time's food section had a lead article on Bordeaux wines. In the course of the article they translated "vin du pays" as "country wine".

Did whoever wrote the article about "Country Wine" just make up this term? I think it's a nice one, and I have nothing better off-hand to replace it, but I wonder if it's accurate? Hayford Peirce 20:47, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * I checked my three winemaking books, oddly all were written in Britain. One of them, The Winemaker's Companion by CJJ Berry and BCA Turner, has "Those who make country wines (named by ingredient, apple, gooseberry, elderberry etc.)" So it is not made up by the author. Rmhermen 02:59, Aug 12, 2004 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, maybe it's a term only used in England. And possibly relatively new.  As I said, my OED doesn't mention it, but that edition is at least 20 years old.  I wonder if the article ought to be renamed "Non-grape wines"? Hayford Peirce 04:33, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I would rather this was moved too. Added link to German Landwein, and expecting someone to write vin du pays soon. It is certainly not a term in common usage even here in UK, whereas I think it is the official EU translation of vin du pays. Justinc 13:24, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The industry term for this type of wine is Fruit Wine and not Country Wine. Also "vin du pays" is wrong, I think the author, means "vin de pays", which by the way has nothing to do with fruit wine, but just indicates a wine people drink every day, not always lower in quality, but has less esteem for sure.

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the . Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

Country wine → Fruit wine

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 * 1) Support: more appropriate/descriptive name.  ◄ scharks ►  09:23, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 2) Support Definitely a better description of the wines. AgneCheese/Wine 08:03, 25 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 07:32, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Plum wine article
I propose that, should people feel they actually need to merge plum wine, the actual content should merge, while "plum wine" should redirect to Umeshu. George Leung 02:36, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Merge. All of these fruit wines have individual characters, but it is POV to privilege some of them over others. Bigturtle 22:33, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Landwein
The Deutscher Landwein article was about the level in the German wine classification, which I've now merged with that article, and reincarnated as a disambiguation to there and to this article. Plain "Landwein" redirects to the disambig FlagSteward 12:55, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Categories
Any particular reason why fruit wine is no longer considered a fermented beverage? -- Bigwyrm 23:08, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

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Plum wine section
There are only commercial links, photos, and dead links to serve as references; thus I am removing them. If someone can find independent and reliable sources for this section, that'd be great. Otherwise, please stop the blanket reverting, Badagnani.  Eugene2x► talk 21:50, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Restore text pending thoughtful, careful, and deliberate discussion (third request). Badagnani (talk) 05:40, 30 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Forget it. I have tried to discuss with you and your blatant violations of WP:OWN, however you refuse to cooperate and are aggressively biased toward your own opinion. You ignore consensus when it is against your opinion, and still tirelessly say the same exactly thing over and over again. I'm exasperated with this. Let someone else discuss with you.  Eugene2x► talk 22:31, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I removed a paragraph from Youngsil written on 06:19, 11 April 2021‎ with comment "Added contents about the efficacy of plum liquor". The paragraph states that plum liquor is effective against fatigue, and the link seems to be an article from Doopedia (https://www.doopedia.co.kr/). No reliable source was found in that link.

Attribution note
Some of the content in the section Dandelion wine is from the merged stub Dandelion wine. AgneCheese/Wine 19:26, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Some of the content in the section Rose hip wine is from the merged stub Rose hip wine. AgneCheese/Wine 22:31, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Some of the content in the Types of cherry wine section comes from the merged stub Kijafa. AgneCheese/Wine 04:28, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Some of the content in the Balloon wine comes from the merged stub Balloon wine. AgneCheese/Wine 08:23, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Cherry wine
More thought should be put into the description of Kijafa, not only because it is the only cherry wine mentioned, but because its origins are confusing. My bottle, and those of many on the internet, refer to Denmark four times on the label, including as the bottler and producer. Some bottles mentioned on the internet mention Denmark twice but then have "Product of Finland" at the bottom. This matter should be cleared up, and perhaps another cherry wine mentioned as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dclahti (talk • contribs) 19:59, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Fruit wine keeping qualities
I have to disagree with the following statement "fruit wines often do not improve with bottle age and are usually meant to be consumed within a year of bottling.". From personal experience I can tell you that is wrong. I would edit the article but I cannot figure out how to remove the reference at the foot of the page, number 6, which the statement references. HLA91 (talk) 21:43, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

History
I would love to read more about the history of fruit wines, if anyone cares to add a history section. k. da-ma-te (talk) 02:47, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

blueberries
aren't blueberries used to make wine also? it isn't in the list of fruits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.126.102.146 (talk) 06:40, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Removal of section "Fruit wine making"
I am a complete novice and am still learning Wikipedia etiquette and standard practice, so please forgive any ignorant mistakes. I am removing the section "Fruit wine making", as it appears to violate WP:NOTHOWTO. Please let me know if I've done anything wrong. Catastrophic Failure (talk) 21:55, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Pineapple wine section
The section states that pineapple wine is not commercially available. A quick search of the internet came up with this article about a commercial producer of pineapple wine. Here are links to the article about the wine and a link to the producer's webpage specific to the pineapple wine: I keep myself to spelling and grammar edits so I hope there is a more experienced editor who will make the appropriate changes to the page based on this information. AgLupo (talk) 17:25, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

mead??
"For historical reasons, mead, cider, and perry are also excluded from the definition of fruit wine."

Umm...last time I checked, HONEY was not a FRUIT. "For historical reasons"? cider and perry are fine (though I imagine that whether or not the reasons are purely historical is debatable), but mead could not under ANY stretch of the imagination be said to be a "fruit wine". (for the record, mead is "honey wine": made from honey, which is made by bees, from *nectar*; which comes from *flowers*, which are the precursors to fruit, but are not fruit in and of themselves). Firejuggler86 (talk) 07:35, 25 October 2020 (UTC)