Talk:Fun Home (musical)

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Musical numbers
This article could use a check on the accuracy of the musical numbers. The very complex production was subject to an unusual degree of revision right up to its opening night and probably the list of musical numbers is out of date. Unforunately the program (PlayBill) distributed by the show doesn't list the musical numbers. There are also sequences that mix dialog interspersed with song that are not obviously musical numbers, or not. This is typical of Tesori's through-composing style. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.128.87.70 (talk) 18:46, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Compendium of reviews
In addition to the reviews excerpted in the article, Playbill has a compendium of reviews here. If anyone wants to expand the reviews section, they can use that resource. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 01:59, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Another possible resource
There's a nice interview with Bechdel about the play here. I'm not sure exactly what section this would fall under, but it might be a good resource if anyone's planning on expanding the article. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:36, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Another good interview with Bechdel talking about the play, by the author of Fairyland, can be found here. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 04:53, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Number of extensions
OK, figure this one out: we have five different citations from Playbill, indicating that on five different occasions the run of Fun Home was extended. Except that the most recent one is titled "Fun Home Given Fourth Extension". I've changed the text to say "multiple times", but this is just weird. Apparently Playbill can't count? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 04:10, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Cutting these down for the GAR, but I wanted to leave the references here in case there is any future discussion of the number of extensions (4 or 5):    —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 16:22, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Errors in the August 8, 2013 Playbill Citation
The article cited at PlayBill.com dated August 8, 2013 has at least one error: the roles of Christian and John have their credits swapped. Griffin Birney played Christian and Noah Hinsdale played John. The actual Playbill program for the show, the Internet Broadway Database, and the credits on the cast CD recording all have it right (as does now this article). As an added source, the author of this note is Noah Hinsdale's father and is quite sure about it. ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnHinsdale (talk • contribs) 00:06, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the correction! —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 04:54, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Sydney Lucas
So, anybody up for creating an article for Sydney Lucas? With her Obie win, she would seem to meet the notability criteria. Unfortunately, I don't have time to do it right now, but if anybody wants to take it on, her win would be a great candidate for WP:DYK. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 05:13, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Obviously, if anyone does this, we'd have to figure out the best way to disambiguate young Syndey from Syd Lucas the WWI and WWII veteran; Sydney Lucas is currently a redirect to him. Dunno whether Sydney Lucas (actress) is the best option, or if she could take over the Sydney Lucas page title. Anyway, if somebody wants to tackle this, her web site is here; there are good articles about her here and here. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 02:50, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I went ahead and created a stub at Sydney Lucas with appropriate hat notes at that article and Syd Lucas. Please go ahead and improve the article further. Best.4meter4 (talk) 21:06, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I kept working, and it is no longer a stub.4meter4 (talk) 23:01, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

New Broadway Picture
Can we put the picture of the new broadway poster as the main picture for this article. It makes sense because that's how it is advertised at this moment and it just looks better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:E:8D00:5BC0:E10C:EA00:C4C:FB5A (talk) 01:17, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

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Alison's coming out
The Background section of the article states: "Alison's coming out as a lesbian is complicated by the revelation that Bruce was a closeted homosexual whose extra-marital affairs included underage men". I have reverted an edit that implied that the problem was the Bruce "cheated on his wife". This is what the source (a NYT article) states:
 * "With a closeted father in the house, perhaps it was natural to doubt the truth. At 13 Ms. Bechdel gets a hint of her father's secret when he confides that he has been ordered by the court to see a psychiatrist. ... The mandated six months of counseling hints at a more serious offense than the official charge of offering beer to a minor in his car. ... On a ride to a movie theater ... [Bruce] tentatively talks about his sexual experiences. ... Four months before the fatal day she informed her parents that she was a lesbian. Her mother countered with news about her husband's affairs with men."

The source makes it clear that Bechdel's coming out "was complicated by" Bruce's being closeted and his liasons with minors. The marital infidelity is not a complicating issue for Alison in coming out. Nevertheless, any homosexual affair by Bruce was obviously extra-marital, so I have added that. But to focus on "cheating" is to misrepresent the content and focus of the source. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:41, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Error re: first Broadway musical to feature a lesbian protagonist
The cited article (footnote 1) is incorrect in its assertion that Fun Home was the first Broadway musical to feature a lesbian protagonist. The Color Purple opened on Broadway a decade earlier and Celie, the protagonist, is a lesbian. Raethegray (talk) 23:35, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Celie's lesbian relationship in The Color Purple is so attenuated in the musical (as compared with the novel) that I am not sure if it is meant to be clear in the musical that she is a lesbian. Can others comment? -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:29, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree that the assertion is not accurate based on this assessment of lesbian characters in musicals found in Playbill which asserts that the lesbian relationship between Celie and Shug is substantial in the musical adaptation as opposed to the Spielberg film where it was hidden. However, there have been criticisms of queer representation of virtually every adaptation of the book; including the stage musical. That said, one could also argue that Maureen and Joanne were part of an ensemble of main protagonists in Rent to further muddy the waters. Obviously Alison was a groundbreaking role for many reasons, but I agree that Celie can not be overlooked as a lesbian protagonist.4meter4 (talk) 19:19, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Good. I moved it out the lead and streamlined it to be only about this subject. The other musicals' articles can make their own referenced assertions about it. -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:13, 20 January 2024 (UTC)