Talk:Fundamental rights in India/Archive 1

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There does not seem to be any discussion of the current status of much of the population of India in regards to these rights, i.e., that most people are unable to practically realize many or all of these rights. Is that within the scope of this article? &mdash; goethean &#2384; 17:05, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. -- May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91(review me!) 10:03, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Basically the issue is that the Indian Languages are feudal and discriminatory. Even though the constitutions does mention equality of status before the law, in practise the different feudal word levels for You, He, She, His, Her, Hers etc. and those connected to various levels of addressing etc. effectively cordon off the average citizen to get equality from the administrative set up. When discussing the issue of Right to equality, this may need mention.

The second thing that needs mention here is about the Right to education. The word compulsory is there in this right, which then more or less transforms it into a compulsory right for the teaching class to take over a child. Since it is a known fact that majority Indian teachers are of the abysmally ignorant class, the compulsory factor in the Right to education actually means Slavery to the education department and its henchmen, the teachers. It is a known thing that teachers are desperate to get students to maintain their jobs.

I can give links to wider discussions on these issues, but then it might seem some sort of advertising. --Ved from Victoria Institutions (talk) 10:25, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

GA status
Thigs to work on now:
 * Please try to bring the lead section closer to the WP:LEAD norm.
 * Please define begar beside it in parenthesis.
 * All else is good, well, meets the criteria. Lincher 18:37, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Review
Factual error???

How many fundamental rights are there? In the introduction it's mentioned 6 but the some 8 rights are listed. I don't think right to informations is defined as fundamental in the constitution of INDIA. Or is it. And also RTE. It is fundamental for children upto a certain age. Can it be included with the rest. Would be nice if some expert looked into it, will try and find some references till then. Jakstat (talk) 11:25, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Can easily reach A class with some effort. Throughout comments:
 * The first sentence of the article should contain a brief summary of what is it. In this case - The Fundamental Rights in India enshrined in the Part III of the Constitution of India > The Fundamental Rights in India are... ....enshrined in the Part III of the Constitution of India.
 * Wiki's aren't reliable sources as they may be edited/vandalized anytime. This might be a better source for the constitution.
 * The term "State" includes all authorities within the territory of India. It includes the... - The term "State" includes all authorities within the territory of India — ....
 * I advice formatting all the reference constantly using the cite templates.
 * The Fundamental Rights have been criticised for many reasons - Unbold "Fundamental Rights". No need for "Child labour" to be bolded earlier in the article as well.
 * Any reference for the 1919 events?
 * ..the Supreme Court held that "the state - When does the quote end?
 * The India flag is irrelevant to the "Cultural and educational rights" section and thus confusing.
 * ...religion, caste, creed, colour or sex, ...Articles 14, 15, 16, 17 and 18 - Serial comma.
 * All image captions containing full sentences should have a period per WP:MOS.
 * Even an unaided minority institution... - POV.
 * These provisions act as a check both on State action as well as the action of private individuals - "both" shouldn't be followed by "as well as". Michaelas10Respect my authoritah 16:08, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

GA status reviewed — kept
This article has been reviewed as part of WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards, Ruslik 08:54, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

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Right to bear arms?
I've removed this section (for the second time) - I can't see that it's particularly germane or relevant to the article; it's just a note that the proposal was rejected along with two lengthy quotes, jammed somewhat tangentially into the middle of a discussion about the right to property. This really doesn't seem the place for discussing things that might have been in the constitution but were never included to start with, to me, but I'd be interested to hear other views. Shimgray | talk | 17:43, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

right to bear amrs is an important right for any country who has fought for independence.Yes it is not a fundamental right but its mere proposal in the constituent assembly by the draft committee warrants at least a sentence in the fundamental right.You can also remove right to property as it is not a fundamental right.i urge you to attest add this. manchurian candidate 16:39, 28 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manchurian candidate (talk • contribs)

Protection of life, etc
From the section on "Protection of life and personal liberty", we have this lengthy discussion - I'm not sure what to do with it, or how to go about incorporating it into the very short overview we have, so I've taken it out for the moment and put it here. Thoughts? Shimgray | talk | 18:18, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * A little understanding of Article 21 is required here as it says, No Person shall be deprived of his life or personal liberty except according to the procedure established by law. Initially, in A.K.Gopalan v State of Madras, AIR 1950 SC 27; 1950 SCR 88, as early as 1950, where the validity of the Preventive Detention Act, 1950 was challenged, the main question was whether Article 21 envisaged any procedure laid down by a law enacted by a legislature, or whether the procedure should be fair and reasonable. By this case, an attempt was made to win for the detenu better procedural safeguards than were available to him under the relevant detention law and Article 22, and a very important question was raised which required interpretation of Constitution. But the attempt failed as the Supreme Court of India rejected the argument that expression 'procedure established by law' introduces into India the American concept of procedural due process which enables the courts to see whether the law fulfils the requisite elements of a reasonable procedure.
 * In fact, the draft Constitution of India had contained the words 'due process of law' but these words were later dropped and the present phraseology adopted instead. But as per the Supreme Court of India, this was strong evidence to show that the Constituent Assembly did not desire to introduce into India the concept of procedural due process which was done mainly to avoid the uncertainty surrounding the due process concept in the USA. However, the decision in Gopalan case was a majority decision and Justice Fazl Ali disagreed with the majority view and accepted the due process argument.
 * Then in 1978, in Maneka Gandhi Case, mentioned above, the Supreme Court re-interpreted Article 21 and practically overruled Gopalan Case and gave a highly creative judicial pronouncement. This case shows how liberal tendencies have influenced the Supreme Court of India in the matter of interpreting Fundamental Rights, particularly Article 21. The leading opinion in this case was pronounced by Justice Bhagwati, who also gave the Doctrine of Absolute Liability and Deep Pocket Theory in the famous Oleum Gas Leak Case. Justice Bhagwati was also the only judge in minority opinion when the Constitutionality of the Death Penalty was challenged on the grounds of being violative of Article 21 (amongst a few others) in Bachan Singh v State of Punjab (for Justice Bhagwati's opinion see AIR 1982 SC 1325, 1350). The Court held that the procedure must satisfy certain requisites in the sense of being fair and reasonable. The procedure cannot be arbitrary, unfair or unreasonable. According to Justice Bhagwati, Article 21 embodies a constitutional value of supreme importance in a democratic society (Francis Coralie v Union Territory of Delhi, AIR 1981 SC 746).

7 -Right to information
There in the 1st paragraph is mentioned that Right to information is a fundamental right, I doubt that. So is it true?  Yash  t  101   08:12, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

is there any law or some authorised law kind that a person working in any ferm has authorised government law different for each ferms Or in other words has government laws different for each employe. Vickysakaria (talk) 03:16, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

RTI
Since when was RTI a fundamental right ??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsrikanth05 (talk • contribs)

I asked the same question here:

And got this reply; this  Yash  t  101   06:54, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for the bad link try this link RTI it mentions Right To Information and has been given the status of a fundamental right under Article 19(1) of the Constitution I am on a restricted network so cannot find more sources but I guess this will also work. I can provide more sources after some time. Thanks --sarvajna (talk) 13:20, 25 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Both those links are more than enough. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 14:09, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

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Laser and Hologram technologies
I have tried but can't think anything new with this topic. Please develop this topic, I want to know more about this one. Assassin GUY (talk) 06:23, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Internet access is fundamental right
Hi editors, you may know that in January responding to a plea regarding internet in Jammu and Kashmir, the Supreme Court of India said Internet access a fundamental right here is the reference Internet access a fundamental right, Supreme Court makes it official: Article 19 explained from India Today and there are many more on this. Watch and add this in the article here.—  The Chunky urf  Al Kashmiri    (Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)  22:09, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

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Short Questions:- ▪︎Give two reasons for the inclusion of Fundamental Rights in the Indian Constitution. 2405:201:8019:E006:C0DA:6735:C88B:4C9 (talk) 06:55, 12 December 2021 (UTC)