Talk:G. V. Loganathan

Merge?
Shouldn't this article NOT be merged under WP:PROF? -- febtalk 12:29, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Can you cite which crtieria under which is should be kept according to WP:PROF? --StuffOfInterest 12:31, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Looking through the article, I feel potentially this person might be noteable enough under Notability (academics). But the article doesn't clearly establish it Nil Einne 12:39, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree, it appears that he might be notable enough, considering his awards and the fact that he was an Associate Editor of the Journal of Hydrologic Engineering - perhaps this merits some further investigation to see whether he was regarded a significant expert in his field? --Buyoof 14:32, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I concur; I think this professor should either have his own article or it (as well as the other professors) be merged into the Virginia Tech massacre article. These professors seem to be academically qualified to have their own articles, and Loganathan deserves equalSansri88 22:51, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep the article. From news reports he certainly did have a notable academic reputation. He won the teachers award almost every year for the last 10 years and i'm sure as time goes on, information about his background, achievements, and most importantly what he may have done to save the lives of any of his students (if at all) on 04/16/07. For now, it's simpler better to wait. Majik43 23:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Please keep this article as a memorial to this wonderful professor 69.0.83.203 00:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I started the page for Prof. Granata hoping that others would add enough data for his article to be noteworthy enough to stay. Hopefully others can add anough to Prof. Loganathan's page for the same to happen. These professors seem more than interesting enough to document their professional work here for permanent pages and, on a side note, I think it would be honorable for all to see who they are and learn about these people as being more than just names on a list if the end result allows. H! 00:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I've asked a colleague of mine who also was an Associate Editor of the same journal and whom has worked with Prof. Loganathan to help me add more relevant material to this article.  We only need time. MCalamari 03:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

This gentleman seems to have more to offer as an entry than simply how he died. With some work, this will become a resource on his life, not a memorial to his death. Based on the little that is already written, he seems to have been a prominent figure as a professor and as a professional in his field. --catseyes 07:19, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't understand why we need his dead to write about him. Why nobody wrote this before?--Gonzaloluengo 15:56, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is driven by volunteers who add articles as they can. This project is far, far, far from complete (and in theory, really never will be). There are plenty of notable things, people, and events in the world that merit an article in Wikipedia that don't have an entry simply because nobody has gotten around to it. Just because an article hasn't been written before in Wikipedia, is hardly a reason for an article not to be created now or in the future. If it was, Wikipedia would die immediately. --82.110.62.178 09:14, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

reverting to article
all other faculty deceased have their own articles. please nominate the article for AfD/Merge, if you feel it is appropriate to do so. See discussions Talk:Kevin_Granata and [] for similar decisions, before deleting/merging. --ti 21:37, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Opposed to merge Unless you propose to merge all other professor bios into the Virginia Tech page, there is no reason this shouldn't stand on its own. Madcoverboy 14:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Virginia Tech massacre template
Though I support retaining the template itself, I question its inclusion in this or any of the other bio articles of otherwise notable people who died in the shootings, as it gives too much emphasis within their bios to the manner of their death. Not to mention it seems very tasteless. --Yksin 17:59, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Deletion template somehow distasteful
While I agree that the Wikipedia generally shouldn't be a memorial, I also find it extremeley distasteful to find a deletion notice template on a recently deceased person's article page. It's already horrible enough that the person was brutually murdered. Somehow the deletion template adds salt to the wound and is therefore poor taste. It's like the deletion template is "murduring" the deceased person a second time. 61.229.182.23 15:44, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Images
There are two images on this page, but they're both almost the same. What is the point of that? TheOtherSiguy 17:06, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I was thinking that it looks like the same suit and almost the same tie. I'm not opposed to having another picture up as well, but as I've been reading news articles on-line he doesn't have many photos.  I think we should delete one of the two.  MCalamari 05:05, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Recent death|Loganathan, G. V.
The topic of the article is about G.V. Loganathan who happened to recently died. While it was his death that generated all the WP:RS information about him, the topic of the article is not about a recently deceased person. If it was, then the lead would read Gobichettypalayam Vasudevan Loganathan, known as Prof. G. V. Loganathan (April 8, 1954 – April 16, 2007), is a recently deceased person. The template is wrong and should be removed from the article. -- Jreferee 18:21, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

WP:MEMORIAL
Now that over a year has passed, this article needs to be looked at again in respect to WP:MEMORIAL. I will begin this inquiry with the question: if he was notable as a professor before the Virginia Tech Massacre, then why is there not a single independent source dated before this event to establish this claimed notability? The way the article reads now, it looks just like a plain-old run-of-the-mill obituary -> not appropriate for Wikipedia. Rooot (talk) 09:31, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed doesn't seem to make WP:PROF. Now that emotions have calmed down, this should perhaps be taken to AfD. --Crusio (talk) 21:49, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * There are certainly far less noteable people on Wikipedia. While I doubt you'll find many internet articles about Loganathan dated before the massacre, that's a poor judge of academic noteability -- especially in a field that's still so tied to traditional publications. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.165.177 (talk) 05:34, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

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Loganathan's name
As seen here http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/open-page/first-name-middle-name-surname-real-name/article387414.ece Southern India has different naming conventions that could confuse someone not familiar with the area.

Tamil names work like this: He did not have a surname/last name/family name, at least while he was an Indian citizen.
 * Gobichettipalayam - Where he was from
 * Vasudevan - His father's name
 * Loganathan - His given name, and the name he was politely addressed by

If he obtained U.S. citizenship he would have had to legally register a different name which would have a surname. But being aware of the original Tamil convention is important.

His VT memorial page refers to him as "G.V." in one point, as if it were an American nickname ("[...]in 1954, G.V. attended[...]") as this page on James Bishop calls him by his nickname "Jamie". The use of G.V. here would seem to be a form of Americanization. WhisperToMe (talk) 04:12, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * CNN-News18 (formerly CNN-IBN) shows the Tamil naming patterns here as a sibling also is prefixed "GV" with the personal name last. Also Time Magazine and CBS News carried the reporting.
 * This article on SBNation Hammer and Rails stated that he went by "G.V." in the US WhisperToMe (talk) 04:36, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * This article from the San Francisco Chronicle also shows the commonality of "G.V." between the siblings. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:56, 13 June 2024 (UTC)