Talk:Gaia Online

Most Popular "Message Board" in the World
Hello, I'd like to note (and would like somebody to include in the main article) that Gaia Online is presently the most popular message board in the world in regards to posts and registered users. A website that monitors this information is known as http://www.big-boards.com/ and clearly indicates that Gaia Online is number one. As a side note, I will mention that it doesn't include foreign message boards (eg; 2channel) and so it may be best to say that it's the most popular English message board in the world as no evidence really proves otherwise.
 * As much as I love Gaia, that's still speculation. I know of PLENTY of other sites that I frequent that have much more prolific messaging boards, one of which is fark.com (they're still considered forums & message boards). Besides, even if it was, there's no way to confirm the reports based on one site's data. You'd have to have that confirmed on multiple boards. Also, the most popular message board thing is something that sounds more opinionated than anything else. There's just no way of using the data from that website. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 09:43, 7 July 2008 (UTC)Tokyogirl79
 * Most posts, then. MySpace has the highest traffic, however. I'd believe that since there's lots of bumping on Gaia. OrangeAipom (talk) 18:22, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * A forum being listed on Big Boards requires that someone submit the forum initially. Big Boards does not seek out large forums, which is why there are obvious omissions from their listing.  Once listed, Big Boards tracks statistics for that forum.  As a result, Big Boards does serve as a valid source of comparative information for the forums it tracks.  It is not much help if you are looking for comprehensive information.
 * With that in mind, you could say "Gaia Online is the largest message board listed on Big Boards".
 * By the way, Big Boards does list non-english language forums, when I checked the ranking for ToontownCentral I noticed other forums close to that listing Gamesnet.it (in Italian); Helpmij.nl and Noxa (Dutch); and Aşk Masalı (Turkish). Kid Bugs (talk) 12:39, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Gaian Economy
There should be a section on Gaia's economy. It might be better suited to move some things into this section from other sections too, like talking about gold and the like. Websites such as tektek.org and gaiacast go into talking about Gaia's economy, I'm sure other ones report on it. And the economy is mentioned in almost every news piece I've seen written about Gaia.

Since Economies are so intricate, it might be suited for a second article, however. Especially when you have to factor in things like how real money comes in to play and the like. It is interesting to see how economies evolve when the rules are altered from the current global economy, yet still seem to follow some, but not all rules of the market economy. 150.131.77.65 (talk) 05:56, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree. We'd need more information though. 150.131.98.193 (talk) 05:26, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

There are some good working generators and programs by gaia to help you get some gaia gold and items.

--- Removed links ---

The user who posted the links were linking to scam links 125.238.124.200 (talk) 10:00, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

4th of July?
Maybe I'm just losing it in my old age, but I can't recall any 4th of July events. As such, I can't see a justification for it being listed under "Special Events." --HamatoKameko (talk) 13:48, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The 4th of July is Independence Day in the United States, and Gaia Online is based in the US. It should probably list the actual name of the holiday instead of the date to prevent confusion (especially for those of us who don't live in the US). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.166.143.19 (talk) 18:22, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think there was last year, where they gave out those roman candles. – DroEsperanto(talk 10:00, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Gaia Online is indeed based in US. Although there has never been a "4th of July" event on Gaia.
 * This thread should be source enough. During the last few pages, a Site Moderator explains why he don't think there should be a "4th of July" event, and the main point of the thread itself, is that there's no such event.
 * ~ Mads Ren`ai (talk) 15:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Really late to this, but for future readers. Site Moderators are volunteers and their word is not law, a valid source would be an Administrator. They work for and are based in the headquarters. 2604:6000:F6C0:2900:1D3:79F6:F9E3:95AD (talk) 06:28, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Typos
It should be noted that Gaia was opened to the public February 18, 2003 not 02. It even says so in the article it sites. Reichiru (talk) 18:43, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

another typo is this "grombie". there is no such word on gaia and who ever keeps changing it is clearly a noob.


 * Actually, "Grombie" isn't a typo, nor a n00b-word.
 * Grombies are a special type of zombies unique to Gaia Online, released during the Halloween Bash 2006, and related to it's plot.
 * ~ Mads Ren`ai (talk) 15:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Security
There should be a section on Gaia security, for those petafile-weary parents. I'm pretty sure it's safe, but they'd like some confirmation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.141.195.167 (talk) 19:24, 25 May 2008 (UTC) Pedophile, you mean.

Wikipedia isn't the place for information like that. Parents should know how to protect their children for the most part and anything they need can be found on the Information for Parents page and the Safety Tips page. Thuper (talk) 07:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Locations in the Gaia Online Universe & IRL Raids
With the upcoming battle system, would it be worth listing locations that we know about through the battle site, item descriptions, the plot, and through other methods?

I'm sure I've seen other games with location lists... or would this be un-needed research and data that no one else really cares about? XD  I think it would also be worth mentioning Gaia's increasing exposure to the 'outside' world through 'IRL Raids' such as the Early Show, the Today Show and The Price is Right?

Thuper (talk) 23:19, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

In reference to zOMG!, I think plot and gameplay would be important to briefly explain, but I don't think in-depth information is necessary... Unless they end up making a new node for the game. Reichiru (talk) 20:05, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup
The following items need to be done: --Lendorien (talk) 20:16, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * General proofreading
 * Grammer + spelling corrections
 * Capitalization corrections
 * Fact checking

Zomg
I have seen an advertisement for something called "ZOMG!" in a magazine. From what I have gathered, it is a "casual mmo" that Gaia will be creating. There also has been some discussion about it on the gaia forums. Does anyone know about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.84.155.173 (talk) 15:27, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Officially titled "zOMG", the winning name for Gaia's "Battle System" (soon-to-be-released MMO game within Gaia). zOMG official site -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>   .cнаt^  19:15, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Donation Items and Monthly collectibles
In regards to this announcement on the Gaia website: Monthly Collectables have had their name changed from Donation items. It's a bit nit picky, but under the heading "Monthly Collectibles", shouldn't it say "Monthly Collectibles (previously known as Donation Items)" Allizoid (talk) 08:27, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, it is a bit nit-picky, but a good catch. ;D I've changed it. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>   .cнаt^  01:21, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Date Founded
Gaia was founded on February 18, 2003, not any time in 2000. See their "about" page here. Freddd123 (talk) 03:38, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Dragonmaster88 keeps changing the date founded to 2000, I'd like to ask now for some sort of reliable sourcing for this year. ~ Itzjustdrama C  ? 23:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

this site name changed in 2003 from go-gaia.com to gaiaonline an the know date that go-gaia seems to been have founded was around early 2000, and very early gaians of the site know of the switch. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragonmaster88 (talk • contribs) 00:39, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * We can't change the date founded unless we can find some reliable sourcing for the year, like example from the founders themselves. The reference can't cite the early members of the site, even if they are right. ~ Itzjustdrama C  ? 22:19, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Is that link that I had above not good enough? It explicitly states that Gaia was founded in 2003 (and is from Gaia's website, can't get more official than that). And then the current citation that is in the wiki page says that the creation date of the board was "February 18, 2003." Dragonmaster88 is definitely wrong about it being founded in 2000, unless he has some citation for that that I'm missing?Freddd123 (talk) 06:42, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

hmmm, from what I heard from some people who were with it from the begining, they say it changed in 2003 from go-gaia. meaning gaiaonline started 5 years ago but go-gaia is still unknown when it officially started —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.129.80.144 (talk) 07:06, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

I've been on Gaia since January 2004, and it was still called Go-Gaia then. I think remember it changing to Gaia Online not long after I joined, although it was still possible to go to the site with Go-Gaia.com until 2006. Before Go-Gaia was created, the founders were working on a comic series or something (Studio XD), but Go-Gaia definitely wasn't made until February 2003. You can also look at web archive like archive.org to see that there wasn't really anything before 2003. (Web Archive) Freddd123 (talk) 09:02, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

And another incorrect thing is the headquarters are not in San Francisco, they are in San Jose, California (see their company profile on Businessweek)Freddd123 (talk) 09:05, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

wrong fred go-gaia changed in 2003 and wasn't "made in 2003" it was around 2 years before it said people who remember the switch. oh and also people have said lanzer lives in the town that Mr. Monk lives in, which is san fran for the "Monk intolerant" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.129.80.144 (talk) 19:34, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Just because Lanzer lives in San Fran, that doesn't mean his company is based there. Please provide a source for it anyway. In addition, the links Freddd provided is pretty sure evidence that gaia was founded in 2003 and that go.gaia was not created in 2000. ~ Itzjustdrama C  ? 20:15, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

If I'm wrong, find me a source proving me wrong. And, even if Derek Liu did live in San Fransico, it wouldn't matter: Gaia is a corporation based out of San Jose. Freddd123 (talk) 03:06, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I'd like to add my 2 cents to this discussion.


 * I have never seen any sources stating that Gaia Online was founded in 2000. Unless you're able to provoid enough sources to match the number of sources saying it was 2003, it shouldn't be changed.


 * Go-Gaia was indeed founded back in 2003, as far as all sources I have seen states. ( Just to pick out a few of them. )


 * Another thing that indicates it, is the yearly Gaia Anniversary Ball, which celebrates the founding of Gaia Online. This year it will be the 6th anniversary, meaning that Gaia has been around for 6 years, aka since 2003.
 * Also, as already stated by Freddd123, it is correct that the people who founded Gaia Online, were already a group called Studio XD back in 1999 . But as should be clear now, Gaia Online itself wasn't founded 'til 2003.
 * As far as comes to the whole thing with the website going from Go-Gaia.com to GaiaOnline.com, that happened somewhere between June 19th, 2004 and June 24th, 2004. (Note how the URL-address written on the header-graphics between those dates change.)
 * That should clear it up once and for all, no?
 * ~ Mads Ren`ai (talk) 16:09, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

duded it was around at least in 2002 and that is what the old copy right says 2002, and it is clear once and for all —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragonmaster88 (talk • contribs) 02:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I just gave you 5 sources saying 2003, including the official Gaia websites own statement.
 * May I see the source to the link saying that it was 2002? Without a source, it's not valid information.
 * Please stop changing the dates 'til you have sources that can confirm your claims.
 * ~ Mads Ren`ai (talk) 15:09, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

yeah all you gave is good and all but go-gaia.co was their original website and thanks Freddy it clearly states in the bottom corner of it that says 2002 and means the site merged if you have complaints then these people are wrong —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragonmaster88 (talk • contribs) 16:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Forums are not reliable sources. I'm sorry, but you have to come up other sources. Although the copyright does say 2002, there is a larger number of reliable sources saying 2003. ~ Itzjustdrama C  ? 17:09, 10 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Further, the copyright date says nothing about when the service went live. The forums aren't accessible—and are forums—so I'll go with the interview and the official site as sufficient sources here. If anybody wants to change it, they need to provide a source of superior reliability. —C.Fred (talk) 17:11, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

yeah and I am not trying to start a fight but go-gaia clearly states the copyright date 2002 one of arcive pages by fred and saying that website started in 2003 is freaking madness, plus I have a tendency to start pointless fight half the time, but this is the correct date for go-gaia and you want say it existed one year after it says, then that is just wrong —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragonmaster88 (talk • contribs) 17:20, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

hey guys, um I can't find the announcement about the 2004 site change on gaiaonline.com, I was like just wonder is this right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.196.234.176 (talk) 22:14, 22 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I was looking for the old announcement on Gaia itself, myself as well actually. But sadly, it seems to have gone lost last time they made an update to the forum.
 * However, I found the following posts in a thread called "Lanzer's work diary", made by Lanzer (the Head-Admin of the website) himself back then:
 * June 29th, 2004 - "Hopefully it'll perform without errors tomorrow, and from then on we'll have www.gaiaonline.com as the URL (...)"
 * July 8th, 2004 - "The load balancer seems to be working fine so most of the URL's are now pointing to www.gaiaonline.com."
 * July 9th, 2004 - "Also moved the URL to www.gaiaonline.com now."
 * Since this was all written by Lanzer, I consider it a reliable source.
 * To get back to the point though, this clearly states that it was in 2004, although I suppose it can be discussed what the exact date is.
 * Cause apparently, the GaiaOnline.com became active at June 30th, but was only done moving when they reached July 9th.
 * ~ Mads Ren`ai (talk) 10:09, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Dragonmaster88 is definitely a vandal. On his profile, it notes that he registered 2003. Thus, he either can't read numbers or is deliberately trying to destroy an article.
 * User:Andrea12 (talk) 10:09, 22 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.44.56.41 (talk)

Update zomg section
editsemiprotected

The zOMG section needs to be updated - the game has now been released. 121.127.200.233 (talk) 05:14, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: Please provide a source, thanks!--Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 17:36, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

(Personal attack removed) http://www.gaiaonline.com/games/zomg/ 207.196.180.235 (talk) 02:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Considering anyone can go to the site and play it? I'd say it does need inclusion.--74.131.91.57 (talk) 10:02, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Aquarium
Shouldn't the Gaia Aquarium be mentioned? Buradi-Mari (talk) 01:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Gaian Bible/External Links
I'm not sure if this was already added and taken away, but I might as well go for it. [The Gaian Bible] is a bit of an epic fanfiction about the site's creators and community. Its had its own thread for years and now has moved to a pretty popular site. Unlike TekTek and similar generators, it isn't a tool, just a rather large collection of myths, folklore and stuff put into prose. I think its a bit of a testament (no pun intended) to how dedicated some people are to Gaia and reflects the humour in the community. Its got its own article on the Gaian Wikia, but does it qualify for a link here, or does it need something more? Melaisis (talk) 10:31, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * If it's notable enough that it's gotten independent coverage, then it can be included. E.g., has Wired written about it? —C.Fred (talk) 16:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

New Additions, Old Changes
As far as I know, Gaia Interactive is still based out of San Jose, California...so why the hell does the article say San Francisco? I thought this was covered, Lanzer can live wherever the hell he wants but I'm more than a little sure their head offices are in San Jose. As is Lanzer apparently because job openings for Gaia Online aren't listed as being in San Francisco.

zOMG isn't mentioned anywhere, despite the fact any visitor to Gaia with an account can play it freely. Its listed as being in beta but it has since its release and being listed as a beta doesn't change that anyone can play it.--Licourtrix (talk) 11:28, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Massive Update needed
This article is extremely out of date in regards to games, events and features. I'm going to start updating it a bit and finding sources, but I can't do it on my own. Karandr (talk) 01:55, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Seconded. This is severely undernourished and needs a major update. There is a lot going on at Gaia, and [all] the articles are really un-descriptive and brief. I think Gaia is high enough up there on the interweb to get a decent article. VR.Moose (talk) 22:08, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

third...ed. I am an active user of gaia online and would love to help.Ive been on for almost a year and you can confirm anything your unsure of with me.^.^ zrac123 (talk) 20:55, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Grunny/Grombie
Under Special Events, it says that the zombie skin is a "Grunny". A Grunny is a green zombie rabbit that infected Gaians and made them into Grombies. There are three original Grombie stages and the third is reminiscent of a Grunny with the eyes and mouth, but it's still a Grombie. There are also two other Zombie skins that have come out, but they are simply "Zombie" skins instead of the Grombie skins, because they weren't brought on by the Grunny outbreak. Mooneko (talk) 13:47, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Nice.
Nice of you guys to hide all of the criticism that Gaia has. This article has nothing but biased praise for the website.--108.7.77.32 (talk) 02:26, 26 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Is any of the criticism coming from established game reviewers and not just in (fan) forums? There's an issue with reliable sources in play here. —C.Fred (talk) 02:44, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't say that there is any type of biased view in the articles. It's just that there is hardly any information at all about Gaia today. Positive or negative. Overall, everything needs major improvement, but this will require the work and knowledge of many people.VR.Moose (talk) 20:25, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Just did a huge update (17th Oct, 2010)
Hi all, I've just done a huge article update since a large majority of information about the current Gaia Online website was missing or out of date. All I've really done is plug in a bunch of information so there's a few references missing that should probably be put in, as well as dates about when certain things were implemented, and random spelling/grammar mistakes. Hope the article's more up to date now. SunsetFlare (talk) 05:51, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Pictures should be needed
Pictures of a Gaia avatar, Gaia home, Gaia Car, Towns, Rally, profile, ZOMG, the main Gaia homepage and/or the logged-out page should be needed to visualize what GaiaOnline is. Is it possible to add images? ELITE 3000 (talk) 02:10, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Monster Galaxy
Would anyone here say that Monster Galaxy is big enough now for its own article? I have one half-made, if you think that it deserves its own article by now.KnowledgeisPOWA (talk) 20:42, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

alchemy event
" This arcane art lets you use secret formulas to combine items into volatile concoctions-- they may transmute into rare and valuable treasures, or they might blow up in your face. You can discover these formulas all over Gaia, but the simplest way is to buy them in The Bifrost shop!"Alchemy lets you use formulas to combine multiple ingredients into rare and valuable items.

You can find formulas all over Gaia, or buy them from Bifrost. Each formula can only be used once.

Each formula requires a different set of ingredients. Click on a formula to see which items you'll need to complete it. Once you have all the ingredients, your formula will show up in the Ready Tab. Click on "Complete" to attempt to transform the ingredients into a new item.

Keep in mind that your alchemy level needs to match or exceed the level of the formula, or you won't be able to complete it. Some formulas are more difficult to complete than others, and your attempt to complete them may fizzle out. If so, you'll have to try again! link: http://www.gaiaonline.com/alchemy/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.66.103.8 (talk) 03:54, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Sopa Protest.
Gaia online protested Sopa by censoring it's site for a day. Along with Wikipedia an lots of other sites. I think it should be mentioned in the thread. Pouyakhani (talk) 11:04, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

No Pictures!?
Why are there no pictures on this article? Did the wikinazis come and remove them all? 50.132.103.137 (talk) 04:22, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

External links modified
Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on Gaia Online. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20081221141903/http://www.big-boards.com:80/int.php?n=60 to http://www.big-boards.com/int.php?n=60
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20100125110631/http://www.businessweek.com:80/technology/content/may2007/tc20070523_707199_page_2.htm to http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2007/tc20070523_707199_page_2.htm

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot  (Report bug) 06:43, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Tentacl
Noticed:
 * 04:18, 3 May 2014 MusikAnimal (talk | contribs) deleted page Tentacl (A7: No explanation of significance (real person/animal/organization/web content/organized event))

A source associates the term with Gaia:

This site doesn't appear to exist (I can't find it) so my guess is the project flopped, but should we make a note of it somewhere here? ScratchMarshall (talk) 07:45, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

External links modified
Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 4 external links on Gaia Online. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
 * Corrected formatting/usage for http://www.big-boards.com/int.php?n=60
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070607174657/http://ojr.org/japan/internet/1093543502.php to http://ojr.org/japan/internet/1093543502.php
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20080913221719/http://www.virtualworldsnews.com/2008/09/virtual-great-1.html to http://www.virtualworldsnews.com/2008/09/virtual-great-1.html
 * Corrected formatting/usage for http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2007/tc20070523_707199_page_2.htm

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot  (Report bug) 03:22, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

External links modified
Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Gaia Online. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20100406072330/http://www.virtualworldsnews.com/2008/04/interview-talki.html to http://www.virtualworldsnews.com/2008/04/interview-talki.html

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot  (Report bug) 13:36, 15 December 2017 (UTC)