Talk:Galliformes

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ITIS has this order quite mixed up. There's a suborder Galli, but Gallus isn't in it; there's a family Meleagrididae, but Meleagris isn't in it; and there's no Gallidae even though Gallus is the type species (Gallus and Meleagris are both in Phasianidae). Can someone sort this out? -phma


 * There is a new paper upcoming (in Cladistics journal) which should provide most of the information to sort it out. Generally, relying on ITIS is not such a good idea as currently we're witnessing a major revolution in bird taxonomy as morphological, behavioral, fossil and molecular data are being combined; primary literature (i.e. peer-reviewed papers) are to be preferred always. Dysmorodrepanis 16:13, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I added the chicken to this page. According to the article about the chicken, it is the most common bird in the world, so it certainly deserves a mention. I assumed that the taxonomy on the chicken article is correct ( Phasianidae Gallus gallus ), but I don't know for sure because I'm not a bird expert. Please correct it if you have more accurate information about the classification of the chicken. Thanks! --64.81.243.120 20:34, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Maybe it sounds trivial to talk about domesticated species that everyone knows about, but I find it necessary. After all, ring (mathematics) begins by explaining that ring structures behave somehow like... the integers. I would think it wrong if the whole article discussed rings without giving a single widely-known example. David.Monniaux 10:01, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * Chicken might be Gallus domesticus (it is generally G. g. domesticus) as some other domestic taxa are now treated as human-made species taxonomically. For the purpose of the article, Gallus gallus is the way to go though (there are some wild subspecies which the article also would be the place to deal with). Dysmorodrepanis 16:13, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

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Well thats the least I could do; this is probably one of the very last major bird articles that needs major work. Sources are there aplenty (see article source); I'm not doing it now but I'll do it soon and I guess it's gonna be done by midyear. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 20:59, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Merged
There'e been no action on the merger, so I will try. Wxidea (talk) 02:35, 26 September 2010 (UTC)