Talk:Gandhigiri/Archive 1

merger discussion
keeep. Gandhigiri should not be merged with Lage Raho Munna Bhai. The term Gandhigiri has already entered the lingo in India. Gandhigiri is being recognised even without a reference to Lage Raho.--Dwaipayan (talk) 13:17, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree it's a commonly used term, but what will be the content of the article? The philosophy has already been covered at Gandhism. Both Lage Raho Munna Bhai and Gandhigiri are short articles. A redirect to Lage Raho Munna Bhai will serve the purpose. utcursch | talk 14:30, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
 * The content will surely grow. Gandhigiri has a slightly different meaning...while Gandhiism is the serious principles, Gandhigiri probably will grow up as a term referring to the practice in real life troubles, in a rather light-hearted sense. We do not know really, it is pretty early to predict the future of this term. IMO, we should let time time before merging, if at all.--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:34, 24 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree with Dwaipayanc, Gandhigiri should continue as a seperate article.--ganesha1

"-giri" suffix
I have doubts that "giri" reflects highest, top-notch or zenith, as in the Sanskrit giri = mountain. It looks like a Persian suffix. Can someone knowing Persian comment? deeptrivia (talk) 05:50, 30 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Gandhigiri is probably a corruption of Gandhigari (Ghandhism). Alternatively it could mean Gandhigiri where Giri means receive.  --alidoostzadeh 21:36, 1 October 2006 (UTC)


 * This "Giri" has nothing to do with mountain/zenith etc. Here, "-giri" is a colloquial suffix roughly equal in sense to "-isma" with a tinge of street attitude implied. Thus, "Dadagiri" = Dada (bully) + giri (ing/ism) = bullying. The only popular usages are in "Dadagiri"/"Goondagiri", both of which mean the philosophy or a specific action of bullying or harrassment by use or threat of force. This colloquial nature, as well as its exclusive use for negative contexts, is what makes "Gandhigiri" a humorous synonym for a specific act inspired by Gandhi's philosophy or the philosophy itself.
 * Note "chamchagiri" = sycophancy, chamcha = sycophant
 * Yeah, I too thought that it is related to "-gari" as in "jadoogari". Never heard of "gundagiri". --Ranvir Sena 17:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Proposal for article structure
I propose the following sections for the article: Please comment on the proposed structure. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:04, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Lead (obviously!)
 * Etymology (would include what the present etymology and meaning tells)
 * Gandhism (would discuss Gandhism in brief, with link to main article Gandhism. Also notable satyagrahas by Gandhi may be included, like Dandi March)
 * Gandhigiri in Lage Raho Munna Bhai (would include the theme of the film in two sentences, goal of Hirani with quotes, a few instances of Gandhigiri as shown in the film)
 * Socio-cultural influence (would tell examples of Gandhigiri that followed the release of the film)
 * Success and failure (would tell the cases of real life Gandhigiris where the methods applied succeeded or failed. Some examples are available in the media.)
 * Critique (positive critiques as well as the negative aspects as noted by a few persons)
 * Notes, References, External links etc

Page name
Since this is both a term and a reference to movements which developed, I would like to move the page to Gandhigiri movement. Thoughts? -Classicfilms 18:09, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Usage
I have removed these definitions from the main article - which were developed in response to previous edits by other users which lacked references. References are still needed which explain both the origin and the exact meaning of the term. -Classicfilms 18:34, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I should add that I placed these portions here after they were contested by other editors. -Classicfilms 19:23, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

- Gandhigiri is a portmanteau of the words Gandhi and Giri. The word Giri comes from Sanskrit and translates as "mountain." When "giri" is added as a prefix to a noun, it indicates that there is a relationship between that noun and the mountain. It is a term frequently associated with Hindu mythology. For example, one method of referring to Krishna is as "The mountain supporter" or "giri-rāj, or giri-rājā" (where "rāj" means to rule). Krishna in this context is thus also known as Lord or chief of mountains. It is related to Gir which is a form of "addressing, invoking, praising" and is also "a kind of mystical syllable."

"Dadagiri" is a portmanteau of the colloquial usage of dādā, the conventional meaning of dād , and  Giri. The word, dādā, translates as an honorific meaning "elder brother" or "grandfather" However, within the context of Mumbai slang, it has also come to mean a hoodlum. In addition, dādā is related to dād which translates as, "crying out for justice, complaint; revenge," "Dadagiri" is thus associated with problem solving through violence. In contrast, "Gandhigiri" is used to describe nonviolent solutions to problems.