Talk:Garbage heap of history

This is a joke
I suggest removing this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moltovivo (talk • contribs) 19:06, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I've always felt the same thing about this article since I voted for its deletion the day it was created. Jok2000 (talk) 00:54, 10 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Let me state again that my motivation in creating this article was not to make a joke. It a good faith contribution on a notable topic. My statement, and this policy together should be all anyone needs to reasonably believe that it is not a joke. Furthermore, this statement to you now, is also humorless. I don't find the deletion proposal funny either. My thought in creating this article, is that people often make links to Wikipedia for terms they need to explain. This phrase was derived as a cold war idiom. I thought that would be a positive contribution. I am not so averse to recommendations for this article, for instance, to move it, or copy it to wiktionary, etcetera; however, I object to deletion. Be well, Pontiff Greg Bard (talk) 01:18, 10 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know what happened to my early comments on this, but the reason it appears to be a joke is the presence of a random, unrelated garbage heap as a photo. A garbage heap of history as defined would actually be a list of failed philosophies, not a photo. As such, even the literary reference to it is a somewhat unfulfilling explanation of just what one would find on such a "heap".  Anyway, it appears headed to the wiktionary.  Jok2000 (talk) 03:14, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

This stub article is neither a joke nor unimportant. I think it should become clearer in the article that it is about the phrase "garbage heap of history", used in the cold war - it sounds a bit strange to speak about it without quotations. The phrase "g.h.o.h." is an object of this world, the g.h.o.h. isn't, thats what I mean.

This phrase was quite usual in Eastern Germany: "Leute wie Sie werfen wir auf den Müllhaufen der Geschichte." - "People like you we throw on the garbage heap of history." It was manly used by party officials or the Stasi to bully oppositionists. They always seeked legitimation from history, because they couldn't get any from the elections.

The "wheel of history" (not to be turned back towards capitalism) was referred to in a similar way. I don't know, if it should be mentioned in the wheel of time article. Greetings, Lipedia (talk) 10:37, 10 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Lipedia's thoughts echo mine. I think there's a lot more that can be done here versus on wiktionary.  There's no need to kill off this article early.  Let it grow.  --C S (talk) 18:11, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Garbage heap, ash heap, dustbin?
For me, it's always been a dustbin! (Also by a long way the most common on Google) I notice that it is so also for Wikipedia: see October_Revolution. If there is a need for an article at all (dubious), there certainly isn't the need for an article on every local-usage translation. (I suppose if I was doing a Scots page it would be the "midden of history".) AllyD (talk) 19:02, 14 May 2009 (UTC)